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Mr Ekted · Movie Geek Gender: Joined: Feb 09 2004 Posts: 1379 Offline

My guess is that this is a bug--not a feature--in the client that allows this. You wouldn't normally expect the server to send position/weapon packets for yourself.
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Animate Dreams · Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 11:34 pm Post subject:

Who cares, as long as it works.

Mine GO BOOM · Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 12:03 am Post subject:

Mr Ekted · Movie Geek Gender: Joined: Feb 09 2004 Posts: 1379 Offline

I understand that it is the most efficient to simply keep "self" in the same array as all the other players, and to just drop in whatever data the server sends for whatever player, including self. But I doubt it was the intent of the design to specifically allow that. It's more likely you just never test for self because the server should never send it.

Grelminar · Creator of Asss Joined: Feb 26 2003 Posts: 378 Offline

Anyway, there are two things that make this "feature" much less useful than it could be: first, after you force a position on to a player like this, it screws up something in cont's timing, and causes weapons and things to be a bit "off" for that player. Sometimes more, sometimes less. I've tried a few tweaks of the time field in the forced packet, but nothing seems to get rid of the "offness".

Second, you only seem to be able to set position and speed, not bounty, energy, and specials, which would be very useful for certain game types.

The fact that it screws up timing, and is limited to only certain fields rather than everything possible, support ek's theory that it's a bug and not a designed feature. And the fact that if you were (intelligently) designing a feature to let the server finely control players' positions, you'd have separate packets for position/velocity, bounty, energy, and specials, so that the server can set one without affecting the others.

Cyan~Fire · Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 12:12 pm Post subject:

Dr Brain · Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 8:00 pm Post subject:

I would have chimed in sooner, but I was out of the country with no internet access.

Be assured we've already tried that and much more, Cyan. Only thing that works is leaving the arena.
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Animate Dreams · Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 2:07 am Post subject:

You know, since this was moved from the other topic, my post makes me look like much more of an ass than it did before. I want to add that originally, we were talking about me trying to use these things, so Ek's post seemed to me like a suggestion not to use those things because they weren't meant to be used that way.
And something confuses me. On my About, it says you helped program Continuum, Ekted. I'm not trying to say you should know more about this, but I would've thought you would know for sure whether it was a bug or a feature?

Smong · Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 7:50 am Post subject:

Ekted wrote the frontend for continuum. Besides continuum is a clone of subspace, which neither ekted or priitk designed or wrote.

Bak · Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 10:06 am Post subject:

something I always wondered was whether priitk wrote continuum from scratch, or whether he used parts of subspace (the asm, not the graphics, idiot) to help him out.

Dr Brain · Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 10:41 am Post subject:

If I were a guessing man, I would say he probably didn't write it from scratch.