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I plan to take a collage continuing education class over the summer for the basic prograiming using visual basic and c++, will this be enough for me to start coding plugins in mervbot?

Killerbot NL · Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 6:06 pm Post subject:

Yea, I think that will do.
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Mine GO BOOM · Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 8:19 pm Post subject:

I learned C by editing Eris's bots for Pro League, but editing the code and emailing it to Ghost Ship because I didn't have a compiler at all. Within an hour or so, he'd reply back with the error log, which would always be 102 errors or whatever the maximum for VC6 was.

Just take a look at code already there, and edit it. With the tons of free compilers around, first just try to compile a plugin. Then see how commands work, and make your own !hello command. Build up from there learning from other code in that project, or browse/ask around for other source code or tutorials to learn from. First and for most, don't be afraid to break things. As long as you don't call system("del c:\windows"), you'll be fine.

Dr Brain · Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 9:09 pm Post subject:

I don't believe that system call will actually do anything without asking, asking again, asking a third time and then finally deciding it'd rather not.
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Mr Ekted · Movie Geek Gender: Joined: Feb 09 2004 Posts: 1379 Offline

That may be the quick and dirty way in, and a good way to get a feel for the language. But once you decide you like it, you really need to start from the ground up.

It's like when someone teaches you a game. You play it and enjoy it. When it's over you digest the rules to see what you missed, and to get more detail and understanding.
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Then in that case any good refrences you can offer to help me startknowing if i like the language?

D1st0rt · Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 4:20 pm Post subject:

I usually give this one to people, it's for C though instead of C++
http://computer.howstuffworks.com/c.htm
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Whats the BEST compiler (ignoring price)

xsp0rtsfanx · Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 5:34 pm Post subject:

dev-c++ is good, or cygwin. both are free and work fine.

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whats the BEST I can get though with money

Mr Ekted · Movie Geek Gender: Joined: Feb 09 2004 Posts: 1379 Offline

I use Microsoft Visual Studio 6. No .NET!

Dr Brain · Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 6:29 pm Post subject:

Visual Studio .NET is the best C++ compiler on the market. It's also basically the only C++ compiler on the market, unless you're shopping for a cross compiler.

Mine GO BOOM · Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:50 pm Post subject:

I don't know, IBM makes some damn good compilers. And don't forget Intel. Their compilers are top notch, and if you trick them into not screwing up AMD, work great on anything x86 based.

Dr Brain · Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 12:32 am Post subject:

It looks like that IBM one isn't for Windows, though I only glanced at them.

Mine GO BOOM · Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 12:51 am Post subject:

He asked for best when money is no object (aka, he'll pirate it), didn't say he cared what for. And that compiler is pretty damn good.

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Are merv's x86 based?

Cyan~Fire · Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 2:29 pm Post subject:

Yes.

And I avoid .NET also. I've heard it has better optimizations than VC6, but it takes about 30s to load on my dad's computer.

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Can you guys refer me to some good websites to learn C++ online, so I can also backup my studies?

xsp0rtsfanx · Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 8:39 pm Post subject:

cprogramming.com

theres stuff for c++ there

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I have Visual Studio .NET 2003 and it loads almost instantly. I can send you everything you need (legally or not).

I don't think they offer that free Visual Studio .NET 2005 download anymore.

If you need some cds let me know. C++ is a good language. If you need a simpler language to start off with try java and get used it to. A lot of business and ATMs use java. I would recommend C++ for any and all gaming software though.

Hope it all goes well.

Cyan~Fire · Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 11:26 pm Post subject:

C++ and Java are almost equal in terms of complexity. (Java's syntax was modeled after that of C++.) C++ just allows you to do more.

Cerium · Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 1:11 am Post subject:

Well Java takes care a lot of things that commonly trip up newbies, which makes it a bit friendly to learn on. And when youve got that down, migrating C/C++ isnt that bad.
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