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totalpwnage · Newbie Gender: Joined: Feb 17 2004 Posts: 16 Offline

I feel sorry for anyone who paid for any of these things. Or earlier editions.

Perfect find. Seriously perfect.

All you need to see other than the download links:

Solo Ace · Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:00 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

wow totalpwnage ur teh k00l.

Nice Grav. Heh, MS seems to be getting some "closer-to-the-end-user" attitude as they're starting contests and giving things away for free.
I guess I like it, though.

Maverick · Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:17 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Wait.. isn't this the same as MSDE which is downloadable for free but is quite unusable since you don't have the tools to access it (apart from command line programs) which you get when you pay for it.

Aka.. Express is only a slim version of the real product and nowhere near the real product?
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Cyan~Fire · Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:35 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

The tools to access it? What do you mean, Mav?
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Muskrat · Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:00 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Looks like Express will do most things I would want to use it for. :\

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/products/compare/default.aspx

Purge · Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:25 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Yeah, D1s told me about VS C++ 2005 Express Edition (with .NET Framework), which is what I always use now. No more of that for loop bug in MSVC 6.0.

Cerium · Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:53 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

what for loop bug?
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Purge · Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:01 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Mine GO BOOM · Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:10 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Purge · Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:16 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Something like this:

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for (int i = 0; i < THIS_THING; ++i)
   count[i] = 0;

while (parse)
{
   Player *p = parse->item;

   if (p->ship != SHIP_Spectator)
      if (validTeam(p->team))
         ++count[p->team];

   parse = parse->next;
}

int a_c = 0, a_i = -1;
int b_c = 2000, b_i = -1;

for (int i = 0; i < THIS_THING; ++i)
{
   if (count[i] >= h_c)
   {
      a_c = count[i];
      a_i = i;
   }

   if (count[i] <= l_c)
   {
      b_c = count[i];
      b_i = i;
   }
}

This snippet was taken from a MERVBot plugin I was working on. VS 2005 compiled it perfectly, but not MSVC 6.

Mine GO BOOM · Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:14 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Cerium · Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:21 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

You can 'fix' that in older versions (VS.Net and older) by changing some settings somewhere. I never cared enough to look myself, but thats what I hear.

Cyan~Fire · Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:18 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

That's horrible code anyway. The second for loop is the only one that's even slightly necessary. The first should just be a memset.

Purge · Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 1:37 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Cyan~Fire · Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:16 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Yeah, of course there are occasions when multiple for loops are necessary in the same function. I just take whatever opportunity I can get to push people towards efficient coding.