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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 4:19 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Grav I'm talking about reverse engineering SS to make the bots. MERV exists because of lots of ASM rips.
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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 4:21 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Grav(FU OL) wrote:
In addition, to negate what Ekted has said:
Just because you create something (like what I just type herein now) does not nessecarily make it automatically copyrighted.

First, you have actually prove in court (incase it gets to it) that you are indeed the original creator.
That this is an intellectual property which belongs to you, and is a direct deriviative of your own private thought.
Just because I say "apple" does not make it copyrighted to me.

Second, you need to actually have it copyrighted at the corrosponding govermental/whatever office.
For which you pay a certain fee (depending on the peripheral you wish to have it copyrighted at, larger and more covering = more $) and fill a mountain of paperwork.
You can't just throw (c) tags to stuff and say it's yours.
And if someone can get there and do it before you (ussually it's done by specializing lawyers, BTW) and can somehow prove he made it first, it's their property then.


This is all incorrect. Creation = copyright. Period.
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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 4:22 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Now I'll do ekted> catid is satan!

Now ekted will go and do:
Gravitron> ssc is satan!

Like mgb thought or whatever, that I think ekted is the devil.
Well, this is where you're dead wrong.
I don't think you're devils, heck no, devils are smart.
You're just a bunch of prickish idiotic lame bum power mongering fucks who ruin the game for their own greed of some virtual godplay environment.
You can be 50 years old, you're still about as mature as bruce willies and demi moore.
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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 4:26 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Ah huh, sure it is Ekted.
Hey look microsoft.
OMG! microsoft(c).
Wow, I'm now a millionaire!

Wait...wait...
SubSpace(c)
Now you all have to pay me royalties for playing.


MINGAKAJAKAKA!(c)

And all those trials and copyright laws, they never existed, I mean, if I created something, it's automatically mine.
People who lose copyrights, even they WERE the original creators, who cares, ekted just declared it all to not be true nor exist!(c).

To end like the reg,

Ekted has a major in law, don't mess with his rights.®

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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 4:31 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I can see a new post coming on the news page:

Continuum, this just in-
Ekted> I have it copyrighted! ©
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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 4:33 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

You don't even know me. All I did was volunteer my time to help Subspace. I sit quietly in Powerball, not abusing anything. I don't even have L1 bang ops. I have virtually no control over Continuum. I am one of the most outspoken opponents of the current SSC system. I do not hate other bot cores, or in any way try to prevent or control their use.

Subgame and the VIE client are out there. Anyone is free to use them. We only offered another choice. Ever zone switched. Why? Because any zone still using the old system would have died long ago from cheating, and Cont offers more features. Ask ANY zone host why they are using Cont instead of VIE. It's got nothing to do with me.
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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 4:35 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

You have to create something original fool. Of course it can be taken to court. But the point is, you don't need to do paperwork like with trademarks or patents. You just put (c) on your work.
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 4:57 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

My understanding is that Ekted is correct.
As soon as you produce anything, it is automatically copyrighted to you. But I don't think you can claim monetary damages unless you register the copyright.
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 10:06 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Oh, is that so mis(s)-erected, ephasis on the missy?
Funny, I've heard otherwise.

Noted hereby that, those who cannot contain twister-induced cheating due to allowing the use of Jeff's official client, are down right amatuers and their security capabilities as ops, of any level, in the zone are most lacking and dubious.

Take your "fool" and shove it where the sun doesn't shine, baldy.
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 4:17 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

OK I'm not quite getting your point, but are you saying that everyone should allow Subspace and then manually hunt down the cheaters?
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2004 6:46 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Cyan~Fire wrote:
are you saying that everyone should allow Subspace and then manually hunt down the cheaters?
They are saying there is a choice. And a lot of the time the ops go for ctm only, either through ignorance or to prevent cheating. BTW I don't know what the policy is on SSC zones allowing VIE in.
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2004 11:06 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Anonymous wrote:
BTW I don't know what the policy is on SSC zones allowing VIE in.

Each zone is allowed to choose if they want VIE or not, but since most zones are going the path of wanting 2meg worth of useless replacement images for their EMP explosion, they almost always choose to not let VIE clients in. Plus, they are also don't want other people's bots in their zones.
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