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I invented a new cool way to talk online! You just insert letter "i" into the beginning of the word. Priatty ciool eih? Now spread the word, so everyone can talk in Lit!

Cyan~Fire · Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 6:01 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

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Sercit · Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 6:26 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Thats it. I try to be polite on this forum.. I try to present a nice and polite sense of being for everyone to view. This image ends now. L337 was not a langauge created by hackers... =\ Despite popular belief, L337 was created by 12 year old script kiddies that still believe 'handles' are cool. A hacker, is not someone that crashes or 'smites' others machines for the pure lovelust of it. A hacker is one that searches computer systems for the 'quest of knowledge' to know the truth that is hidden by 'the man'. A hacker is one that helps others, in this persuit of knowledge. Crackers (the blackhat hacker) are ones that crack systems to find this knowledge. They find creditcard numbers etc. Script Kiddies, are the kids that download scripts, which half the time they don't know what the hell they are doing, and use them to make themselves seem cool in the 'underground culture' they think exists. =\ As Stated in tuxedo.com.. If you don't have enough pride to put your own name to something, or its illegal and you can't put your name to it.. It's nothing worth doing. You should never need a handle. I use Sercit because this is my name I play on Subspace, and there is a big line between hacking... Cracking.. Phreaking.. and being a Script Kiddie. I'm not judgeing anyone.. But for christs sake.. call yourselves by what you are! D: I'm a newbie white hat, I hardly know shit. But, don't fall into the universal stereotypeing of hackers. =\
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Dr Brain · Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 8:25 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

You must realize that the term hacker now means blackhat hackers. The term has changed, and there is nothing you can do about it. I personally don't like the change, but communication is only possible when you can get your ideas across, and that means you need to use the same vocabulary as everyone else.

BTW, L33T speak is for idiots.
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FudLe Pucker · Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 8:32 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

whiat dio hiackers hiave tio dio with LiT??
87\/\/, 1337 15 c001, 8147c|-|!
If i woulda known l33t when i was 8, i woulda started a diary

Sercit · Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 8:38 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Well, allegedly l337 was created by hackers! A secret underground language known only by the 'elite' hackers in subculture. Hence, l337, elite, notice the trend? =\ But, anyone with knowledge worth knowing, knows that the only hackers that use l337 are the ones makeing fun of it! the rest, are morons that should be drug out into the middle of the road and slaughtered like the moronic hordes of sheep they are.

Mine GO BOOM · Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 9:46 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Dr Brain · Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 9:59 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

I try to keep the grammer correct in my sentances, but I am too lasy to perfect it. (I'm kind of a run on person, myself)

Emoticons have their places, and fulfill their job well. That doesn't mean you have a

or a

in every sentance.

Helicon · Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 4:04 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

The current tally is:

Discourses: 2
Honest Pleas: 2
Erroneous Comments (terse):1
Erroneous Comments (inflammatory):1
Summaries:1
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FudLe Pucker · Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 6:33 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

geez you guys, i didnt mean to start a FLAME WAR, i'm just having fun... just because a person likes 1337 or other crappy kiddy lingo doesnt mean you should stereotype him/her... it's just for fun, ffs..

btw Lit was invented for short phrases (like shiat the hell up! or nioob) not as an essay writing tool. In the noobiefying depths of trench wars anger means death, so you need to lighten up your language

Cyan~Fire · Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 7:39 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Personally, I have a slight difference in feelings.
There used to be groups of 'elite' hackers (Legion of Doom, DPAC) that were pretty god-like in skill. But the pedastal that they stood on has been completely eliminating by the popularization of 'hacking'. I am totally in agreement with 'script kiddies'. It's much better to know nothing about computers than to think you do, and just use someone else's work. I am very interested in computer security, and I love Linux, so I got interested in www.hackerslab.org, which is basically a hack tutorial. It's quite fun, being all legal, and it's nice to know how to do the basic stuff by myself.

I also have no problem with l33t, but I definitely have a problem with people that use it to appear to be someone they aren't. L33t has grown into a recognition of a little computing skill, and that's why it annoys me when people who know nothing use it (I'm not talking about people here on this board). I also thought fudle's idea was pretty funny (but not if he's serious).

And, yes, I agree with Mine in the fact that specific and solid words are the best way to communicate your feelings. Not cussing, not shouting, not emoticons, not disrespect. But emoticons do have their place in casual chatting.

And, on a lighter note:

Sercit · Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 8:01 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

[quote="FudLe Pucker"] geez you guys, i didnt mean to start a FLAME WAR, i'm just having fun... just because a person likes 1337 or other crappy kiddy lingo doesnt mean you should stereotype him/her... it's just for fun, ffs..

You see, thats the problem. Everyone has some lame 'language' they created that they think is cool! Well if your just changeing letters to numbers, or useing i's like they are a magic bean to be planted in all the words of the world, your not being creative. No. Your being like that little special ed kid who sits in the back of class banging his head into the desk screaming 'I'm a f*cking teapot!'

If you want to brag about a new language, don't expect to be welcomed with open arms. If it's just useing I's or numbers, it isn't new. It's been done for years now, in many different places. Now, if you make a sister language to Klingon, or Drow, or even Elven... Then you may brag. Til then, expect little to nil when it comes to mercy.

Now, I'm not flaming you. I'm just flaming your 'idea'.

Cyan~Fire · Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 8:04 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Sercit · Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 8:46 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Yes, it was fun. It was fun before I had to sit through 5 years of little asswhipes not worth listening too speak these worthless langauges. Oh well, but your right a little harmless fun isn't a bad thing. As long as it doesn't annoy me.

Or, the rest of the world

'Less we forget, to stop the fad before it becomes over populated and annoying.. Remember the words of Zero Wing's 'Base', may they put fire in your soul. :-p

Mine GO BOOM · Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 9:12 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Gravitron · Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 10:44 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Leet was never 1337.
At most, it was used as a way of shorthand writing and to evade search engines from finding your warez sites, so only other members of the ring who knew what to search for could/would be able to find them.

Those who turned it onto a full crap ass wannabe language are bunch of kids trying to look cool, which they were not, nor was 1337 ever was, and at the most part, it just made the real people laugh at those who had used it.

To quote from a post of mine in another forum which I just spent 20 minutes searching for (just for you

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Sercit · Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 10:55 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Yay, the truth shall set you free.

Helicon · Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 7:07 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

or just make you nausious and obscure any faith you have in humanity...

Cyan~Fire · Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 5:56 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Sercit · Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 6:10 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Again, in responce to Hel, I say: 'And the truth shall set you free.'

Helicon · Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:29 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

in programming we call this an "infinite loop"

"public void" comes to mind, though

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Sercit · Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 10:07 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

And the truth shall... bleh, you know the routine by now.

Too recap, have the children learned anything new? Hmm, has the days when people put 'I's' and numbers in place of actual letters over? I think not. =\ Fads are like food poisoning, when you have it everything that you thought was gone soon comes back up. Yes, sadly it's true bell bottoms came back, so will L337.. it is just a matter of time. Damn it

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L33tStealth · Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 2:35 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

4giot tio liog in
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