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Mine GO BOOM - Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:02 am
Post subject: About recent spam

So you know, the recent spam that has been hitting here is not automated spammers. These are actual people paid to go around, and spam boards. They are being proxied behind zombied machines, and excluding one incident in which a spammer posted two messages in one day, not a single other spam came from the same 20 bit subnet as another. Thus, I cannot just block IP ranges, as these are actual home addresses, a good majority of them in the USA or other European countries in which people who frequent this site visit from. Also, a CAPTCHA won't work either, as these are humans posting the messages. I stopped a bunch because they were using filterable User Agent strings, but more and more, most of them are actually using a correctly formatted IE string, with correct referrals, goes through the site correctly in a normal time it would take someone to load the page, go to a forum, click New Thread, and paste in junk. Hell, they even follow the redirect to their post after the message went through.

As to disabling guest posting? I'd rather them post as Guests than to load up the forum with tons of useless spammers creating accounts, which they will do. Like I said, these are humans going around posting the spam now.

The best thing to do is not even post a reply. I frequent these forums at least once a day, and I do attempt to look at every single post done (0 people ignored, only 3 threads ignored), even if I don't get the chance to respond to every message.

Solo Ace - Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:17 am
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Give us (the dedicated members) access to remove their posts.

Default - Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:31 am
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Okay understood MGB

Dr Brain - Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:02 pm
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If you're looking for a hack idea, here's one.

Make it so when a guest (and only a guest) posts a reply (or a topic), there's a button "mark for deletion", and have it so after 5ish people mark it, it gets deleted.

SpecShip - Wed Jan 25, 2006 3:00 pm
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Getting paid to spam?...what a gig, where do I sign up for this job?
Finally, something I can do from my PC seat all day long between gaming sessions...

Seriously now, though, you know what to do Murphy.

*smacks solo ace along the way out*

newb - Wed Jan 25, 2006 3:13 pm
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Please, let us decide if the post actually needs deleting.
Some retard spams, we delete it, but when we (I) delete it, it only shows up deleted on our computer, not anyone elses. It's like ignoring topics, but instead, ignoring posts.

Dr Brain - Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:30 pm
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We don't need a system to ignore stupid people. We've already got that.

It's debatable if we even need a system to delete spam, but I figured I'd mention the possibility.

CypherJF - Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:38 pm
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Oh, <name> want's to join - have registered users "approve" the player by saying they "know" them. Semi-invitational only?

I do like the nominate this thread for deletion idea.

i88gerbils - Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:01 pm
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So do I and my four new accounts.

LearJett+ - Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:59 pm
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Ah, now we know what Spyed is going to Vocational school for. Spamming.

MGB, what are the three threads you have ignored

Mine GO BOOM - Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:04 pm
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Seriously people, it isn't that hard to ignore certain posters without features of the board. I don't block any specific user's post at all, because I need to have the ability to filter out 'bad things', such as people spamming porn sites, idiots posting useless things in help threads, etc. But trust me, there are certain users in which once I see their post, I skim it and don't bother caring what is in there.

We don't need to make it harder for people to get help. That is the point of these forums: to help people. Take a look at the forum you should be reading, and see how many of those topic starters are posting as a guest. Notice their questions are simple (sure, Google/search could have answer it), thus the method for getting their answers should be simple. This month, I've only had 7 pure spam posts, most of which I caught before people replied to it (why do you feel the need to? "oh boy, this person is talking about porn in a response to someone's router not working, better get my little joke in now while the timing is good!").

Sure, some of you people are complete asses, who spend all their waking time thinking of ways to piss off someone, while more than a select few even dream about it. But a good chunk of you people are real humans, who assist people when they ask a question, who suggest possible solutions when you don't know the real answers, and who give people positive critiques to help them develop their zones. And that is why I still run these forums, why I still frequent here, even though I rarely enter the game other than a quick 30 minutes to kill playing in Chaos Zone.

In fact, I have 30 minutes to kill right now. Time to go green and try and hunt turrets, which I hope are currently flying around in there. It is fun to be the underdog and not have a huge ego to defend. Try it sometimes.

aussie243 - Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:17 am
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i like that idea

SpecShip - Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:18 am
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Murphy wrote:

blah blah blah I'm impotent blah

Solo Ace - Thu Jan 26, 2006 6:01 am
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What did you smack me for?

SpecShip - Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:51 am
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Asking for mod in the most lame way while patting your own back with self-flattery in the process.

Dr Brain - Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:04 am
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I prefer solo's method to your method of slamming everyone else while not-so-subtlely demanding everyone with an IQ below 185 be banned.

Muskrat - Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:17 am
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I think Solo would be good at it.

Mine GO BOOM - Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:52 pm
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SpecShip wrote:

... giving me the finger ...]

I'll take this flawless rebuttal as meaning what I said was correct.

newb - Thu Jan 26, 2006 1:32 pm
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Muskrat wrote:

I think Solo would be good at it.

Same. Again, take my idea MGB - Let us delete a newbies random post, but it doesn't show up on anyone elses screen.

wEaViL - Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:25 pm
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Why recode the forum to allow you to vote against a topic if its spam? Wanna know what will happen? A group of asswipes will form on here and start going threw and voting to delete legit topics because they A. want to be jerks or B. dont like the poster. Solo has the best idea so far... bring in some dedicated users (members that contribute and have been members for a while) to skim threw and remove the spam. Some of us check in atleast twice a day if not more... would need perhaps 2 or 3 new mods to pull it off. Whatever MGB decides to do is whats going to happen, I could careless about the spam because it doesn't bother me much. Hell my hotmail inbox has more spam then this forum... Guess the only plus is that it has half the jerks and some of it is useful dribble.

SpecShip - Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:22 am
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Or, murphy could get off his ass, recode those fancy filters he love to tinker and let loose rampaging, unmonitored, undiagnosed, of his and have them target the key words (porno, sex, casino, gambling) these spammers are using, match them in certain random sentences (most of these spammers repeat same context, same text even, so you could create a database to check keywords against) and have them automaticaly banned or something, or notify the mods of the post so they can go check its validity?

That's what I was talking about.
Also, right my ass, you are incompetent backstabbing filth murphy.
Moreso, what's wrong with 185 IQ'd people-only forum?
Guests are allowed to seek help no matter what's their IQ, spyed/quan/etc. aren't allowed to show face around.
(and we might even get rid of cerium's "DIE DIE DIE GO HANG YOURSELF" retardecy, unless he can find it in him to mature a bit, doubtfuly)

Dr Brain - Fri Jan 27, 2006 8:34 am
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wEaViL wrote:

Which is why it should only work for guest posts.

Mine GO BOOM - Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:22 am
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SpecShip wrote:

have them automaticaly banned or something, or notify the mods of the post so they can go check its validity?

Which would be roughly whenever I have the time, I'd go look at the post that is 'tagged' and verify it. Which is what I do with almost every post anyways whenever I had 5 minutes or so to kill between two other tasks, I browse these forums.

The filters I apply should only target spammers. Word filters can target normal users, and the recent spam posted here is really not that hard to fix.

SpecShip - Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:50 pm
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If all is so well and good anyway, then what in the nine hells compelled you to start this thread and start whining?
I vote to junk you, and delete this thread, or vice versa.

If you aren't looking for feedback, use the announcement forum and lock the post.
Spammer.

newb - Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:57 pm
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wEaViL wrote:

Just because you don't care about spam here, it doesn't mean other people don't care. Not everyone's opinion is the same as yours you know.

Cerium - Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:54 pm
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I havent told anyone to hang themselves... yet.

newb - Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:44 pm
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Cerium wrote:

I havent told anyone to hang themselves... yet.

Won't be long then, will it?

wEaViL - Fri Jan 27, 2006 9:31 pm
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newb wrote:

[..]
Just because you don't care about spam here, it doesn't mean other people don't care. Not everyone's opinion is the same as yours you know.

Since when was I saying only my opinion matters? Never... I was just stating my own opinion and by saying it doesn't bother me I meant its not extremely out of control yet and staff is doing a good job of deleteing it as of right now. So why personaly attack me becuase I stated my own opinion... that constitutes that your trying to say my opinion is wrong and yours is right... on that note i'll quote you 1 last time

newb wrote:

Not everyone's opinion is the same as yours you know.

Ok thank you and shut the hell up.

Dr Brain - Fri Jan 27, 2006 11:13 pm
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I don't think he was actually attacking you, weavil.

Muskrat - Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:15 am
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I wouldn't like someone to front like that neitha. newb's trill.

newb - Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:08 am
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wEaViL wrote:

[blah blah blah]

Yes, I see. Anything else? (No, I wasn't attacking you, and no, where the hell did I say my opinion is right, and yours is wrong?)

wEaViL - Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:56 am
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Screwy board... read below.. love how a edit in the post resulted in a new post below this one.

wEaViL - Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:00 am
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Whatever... That's just what you implied when you tried to say that my opinion is different then yours and everyone has there own opinion... Perhaps you should rethink what goes threw your head before you make a post based on a personal view of another member and try not to sound like a ass. Just read that last thing I said in my reply and stick to it.

wEaViL wrote:

Ok thank you and shut the hell up.

newb - Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:10 am
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wEaViL wrote:

I implyed that everyone doesn't have exactly the same views as yours, and we care about spam here because some people like to help and chat here. Spam is annoying, like advertisements on websites.

wEaViL - Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:24 am
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AGAIN... my opinion has no effect on you... Like I said... the spam is not extremely out of control... if it was then there would be atleast 50 new post for porn and everything else listing on the forum everyday... I've also already stated my opinion on what Mine "could" do to help cut it down so therefore your little comments about my ideas and opinions are pointless and shouldn't even exsist... if you have a different opinion on the subject then make a post with what you think instead of quoteing my and telling me everyone has there own opinion... i think im old enough to already know that... hell im sure i've already learned way more life lessons then you.

Yanno.. put the spam to the side, MGB should start banning annoying people that hardly, if ever, help newbies out... that puts you, quan, and a bunch others on that list. I just skimmed the trash talk and found alot of bs dribble from your mouth trashing other members...

You used to be a ok person... wtf happened to you? btw if you want to continue this dibble of stupidity I do have a inbox on here... i'll be happy to talk to you on there... atleast then I can say what I really want to and not censor myself!

newb - Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:53 pm
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wEaViL wrote:

So, what you're trying to say is that if you are older than someone, you automatically know something before them? Shut up.

wEaViL wrote:

Yanno.. put the spam to the side, MGB should start banning annoying people that hardly, if ever, help newbies out... that puts you, quan, and a bunch others on that list. I just skimmed the trash talk and found alot of bs dribble from your mouth trashing other members...

Are people not allowed to post in Trash Talk? Are people not allowed to communicate with others? When you say,

wEaViL wrote:

MGB should start banning annoying people that, if ever, help newbies out

, notice how many people you put into that group. Check out the people who help reguarly, fucking moron.
I'm sure you didn't skim Trash Talk, because you keep checking back here, coming back for more.

With all your swearing and repeating what you say all the time, relise that you are trashing another member right now?

wEaViL wrote:

You used to be a ok person... wtf happened to you? btw if you want to continue this dibble of stupidity I do have a inbox on here... i'll be happy to talk to you on there... atleast then I can say what I really want to and not censor myself!

I used to be an okay person? Yeah, sure I did. I think I still am sometimes. I argue when someone wants to argue with me, and then I get all this shit by people saying, "hey, you used to be k00l d00d wtf" I couldn't care less what the fuck you think of me now or before.

I'd rather continuue here and let people see how much of a dumbass you are in this argument.

SpecShip - Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:35 pm
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newb wrote:

I think I like him.

Cyan~Fire - Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:58 pm
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Well I think you're both being retarded, if that helps. Shut up already.