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Quan Chi2 - Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:08 pm
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I have a second essay due 11/21 and we got the assignment yesterday(Friday 11/18)

The assignment is to type a 1 page essay(no words more or less) on what type of government Animal Farm was. I also need to give examples.

If anyone can help me, I'd be glad. I got a B(90 in Mr. Harris's English class(heh wierd but good)) on the last Animal Farm essay we had to write, which was the best in the class. I got an 'A' on the last essay(different story). I want to maintain this line of great grades in his class. I don't usually ask for help on essays but this one sees "type hard."

If anyone can spare and details that may help, I'd appreciate it.
Im not asking for a full written essay, but I need some details that you may have found in the book(if you read it) so that I can jot it down and consider puttng that in to back up my assumptions.

Thanks in advance.

Cerium - Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:04 am
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1. Purchase bottle of tylenol.
2. Take entire bottle.
3. Die.

Or perhaps you should try doing your own homework, scrub. Most of us are developers, not English tutors.

Bak - Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:21 am
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_farm

Quan Chi2 - Sun Nov 20, 2005 8:36 am
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Thanks BaK

Anyone else?

Dr Brain - Sun Nov 20, 2005 9:19 am
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No. No one else.

Die Bak, you traitor.

LearJett+ - Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:25 pm
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Just sparknote it and write the damn essay. It's only a fucking page.

Kids are so lazy nowadays...

Solo Ace - Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:28 pm
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And how old are you again?

Purge - Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:40 pm
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You sad little monkey. Who needs help with a 1 page essay? In my sophomore year, we did 4+ pages MLA style and no one needed any help with that easy shit.

SparkNotes is a good study guide, and Wiki is a good encyclopedia for essays. Man, you wouldn't last a second in junior year.

BTW, Mount will demolish your school for the 25th year in a row at the Turkey Bowl.

LearJett+ - Sun Nov 20, 2005 6:26 pm
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Solo, I'm 18

Solid_Fire - Sun Nov 20, 2005 6:46 pm
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I Read this book last year (9th grade), And i'd help you, but i figure you can do your own work, since you have a B. Good luck.

Quan Chi2 - Sun Nov 20, 2005 6:56 pm
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Purge you dumbass, I can do the same thing. Perfect example: just got an 'A' on a 5 page essay I did ALONE, 1 night. It doesnt matter if I'm a sophmore. If Im asking for some help its for a reason. Its not that Im lazy. I just need more sources than just the actual book. I need things like a well detailed synopsis, character list/descriptions etc... so tha I can form an essay from it.

You act like you're so much smarter than me, and it isn't even funny.

Contempt+ - Sun Nov 20, 2005 7:02 pm
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Quan Chi2 wrote:

You act like you're so much smarter than me, and it isn't even funny.

He must be smarter than you if you are asking for help here.

Also, if you got an A on a 5 page paper you did in 1 night, then why do you need help doing a 1 page paper. Another thing, what other sources do you need other than the book you are writing the paper on?

Quan Chi2 - Sun Nov 20, 2005 7:09 pm
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Its not a very easy assignment for me.. Its just a weakness. Can everyone just please stop trying to make it look like Im dumb for asking? Obviously if I did not have trouble on a 5 page essay and I am asking for help on a 1 page essay, something must be complicated.

Contempt+ - Sun Nov 20, 2005 7:20 pm
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LOL! That's like a 3 or 4 page paper. The heading took up 1 page.

Quan Chi2 - Sun Nov 20, 2005 7:26 pm
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When I took away the space between the heading and title, it came to 4 & 3/4 pages.

Cyan~Fire - Sun Nov 20, 2005 7:38 pm
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LOL.

Quan wrote:

The rules above are the rules that were most significant to me if me myself were to have my own government.

YOU GOT AN A ON THAT. LOL.

At least you used subjunctive.

LearJett+ - Sun Nov 20, 2005 8:08 pm
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I'll critique your last essay so this one isn't as awful -

- Don't make a giant list in the beginning unless you were supposed to

- Setting things on fire is the same thing as destroying property, yes?

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For us (the government) to officially be aware of whether this rule is not being followed, we will assign special officers from the world army to a station in an area in each part of the world, enabling them to patrol an area only in their jurisdiction (this applies to all rules). This law is existent because it can prevent many arguments and headaches (problems) amongst both the civilians and authorities

Stop putting parentheses, people reading can tell what you're saying

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No stealing is not a major crime but it is a rule that forbids a human being or animal from taking without permission.

When you have things like this, don't use a double negative. Just saying "Stealing is not a major crime"

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The fifth rule is very plain and simple. No one is allowed to kill anyone else.

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We strive for peace throughout the land. That is our main goal.

Combine sentences like these

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Murder of another human is intolerable mainly because it can cause grief among the murder victim’s family and friends. It might also make living in the area of the murder hard for the inhabitants to cope with because it can make them feel like they aren’t safe. Our goal as the official world government is to keep a happy environment for everyone to live in. Killing can also result in wars.

Elaborate! HOW might it cause grief, HOW might it also make living in the area difficult, HOW can killing also result in wars? This is the biggest thing that separates bad papers from good papers, and it happens in many more places than these.

- Be more creative than "First, Second, Third, Fourth, etc, etc, etc"

- Check your wording on many, many things - it doesn't sound like english. Example given:

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The rules above are the rules that were most significant to me if me myself were to have my own government

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To conclude this essay explaining the official rules issued by my government, I will end with a message that pertains to what we as a government strive for.

Never ever EVER end like that. Don't say that you're going to do something - just do it.

These are the biggest things that stuck out. I didn't want to argue ideologically with you about your paper, I just wanted to give constructive criticism to help you with your next. Just make sure that for every example/instance/point you bring up, you prove it. I can't believe that you got a 94% on that...

D1st0rt - Sun Nov 20, 2005 8:32 pm
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How can someone not know what government animal farm was? It was about as blatantly obvious as you can get

Quan Chi2 - Sun Nov 20, 2005 8:43 pm
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Lear, The teacher corrected alot of those errors you posted above. Thats why I got an 'A' instead of an A+. Cyan, that sentece was corrected aswell. I got alot of WC (Word choice) marks on the paper, which I was not happy about.

Heh, my errors werent too bad. Im not crying about it

I thank you guys for the critisism though. It just makes me more aware of what to do when I am doing my next essay(oops I did my next essay already!).

Also, the reason for the parenthasis after almost each idiom was because well.. THEY'RE IDIOMS! I got a lot of points off of the essay before that because I spoke as if I were speaking to my "general" public.

Dr Brain - Sun Nov 20, 2005 8:46 pm
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A lot is two words.

Quan Chi2 - Sun Nov 20, 2005 9:43 pm
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Brain, I know.. typo..

LearJett+ - Sun Nov 20, 2005 9:43 pm
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Quan, if your teacher gives you extra points for writing like that than I know why your essay is to the caliber that it is.

Quan Chi2 - Sun Nov 20, 2005 9:45 pm
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Cerium - Sun Nov 20, 2005 10:09 pm
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That wasnt a compliment, tardo.

Purge - Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:03 pm
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That was the worst organized essay that I've ever read. No wonder your school isn't even recognized.

Cyan~Fire - Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:08 pm
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Quan, intelligent word choice is not the only thing you lack.

Muskrat - Mon Nov 21, 2005 3:00 am
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Wikipedia is not a good source, try something like JSTOR or some periodicals database for something credible.

Bak - Mon Nov 21, 2005 4:32 am
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Wikipedia isn't a good source if you're doing your Doctoral Thesis. For high school essays, it's a fine source.

Quan Chi2 - Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:45 am
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BaK, do you still play subspace?

WTF? Purge.. my school has a better reputation than your school.. We got beat in the turkey bowl but dont base all of your opinions on that.

SamHughes - Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:31 pm
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Purge+ wrote:

You sad little monkey. Who needs help with a 1 page essay? In my sophomore year, we did 4+ pages MLA style and no one needed any help with that easy shit.

Four pages??!!! Back in my day, we didn't have "MLA style." We had to write twenty-page, cross-indexed theses weekly and cover them in carcinogenic plastic covers, and we had to carry them to and from school each day walking five miles uphill both ways in four feet of snow, with wolverines strapped to our backs! And we didn't have this "internet," we had to go to the library and we liked it, where if we so much as made a loud footstep they'd hang us upside down for a week in the back room, with wolverines strapped to our backs!

newb - Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:33 pm
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SamHughes wrote:

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Four pages??!!! Back in my day, we didn't have "MLA style." We had to write twenty-page, cross-indexed theses weekly and cover them in carcinogenic plastic covers, and we had to carry them to and from school each day walking five miles uphill both ways in four feet of snow, with wolverines strapped to our backs! And we didn't have this "internet," we had to go to the library and we liked it, where if we so much as made a loud footstep they'd hang us upside down for a week in the back room, with wolverines strapped to our backs!

What colour is the sky in your world?!

Anonymous - Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:56 pm
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1984 by George Orwell is good. Anyone read that?

Contempt+ - Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:58 pm
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Yeah, where the hell did you come from? You'd have to be 80 years old for a true memory like that. IF you are 80 and play continuum, you are one sad monkey like Quan.

Solid_Fire - Mon Nov 21, 2005 3:12 pm
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Quan it shouldnt be hard to write a one page essay, you would know who the characters are if you actually read the book...the book is your best reference.

http://www.novelguide.com/animalfarm/novelsummary.html

http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/animalfarm/characters.html

http://www.gradesaver.com/classicnotes/titles/animalfarm/

Try those quan...........

newb - Mon Nov 21, 2005 3:33 pm
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Fix your tags.

Oh, if it isn't so hard, why are you feeding the troll?

Solid_Fire - Mon Nov 21, 2005 5:13 pm
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Im being generous even though he is an asshole and an idiot.

and newb, why do you care? Obvisouly we all know that quan can't do it himself so he has to ask others, all i did was give him references since he was too lazy to get them himself.

Purge - Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:38 pm
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Quan, my school has a better reputation than yours in both academics and athletics. We have something called award banners that we hang in our immense gym; something that you don't have.

Donkano - Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:49 pm
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Quan, you and your teachers are morons.

I agree with everything Lear said, If I did an essay like yours I would get a 20% or lower.

Bak - Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:29 pm
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athletics are a waste of money and a distraction from education

Purge - Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:11 am
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Bak wrote:

athletics are a waste of money and a distraction from education

I fit both into my schedule. And, besides, the colleges like to see that you've done more than get straight As in school. They mostly look for extra-curricular activites such as sports.

D1st0rt - Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:25 pm
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Bak, rofl.

But yeah, my school owns pretty much all of yours in athletics and academics, gg.

Purge - Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:07 pm
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And which school is that?

newb - Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:10 pm
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My school sucks.
Good fun though, and average grades.

Solo Ace - Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:13 pm
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What? We don't have such things, we have evacuation tests.
Fun? What's that?

Isn't Britain all private school'd?

Muskrat - Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:40 pm
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My school has one of the few electron miscroscopes for undergraduate use. muah

Bak - Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:53 pm
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sounds like they don't want to trust people with things they can't spell.

Solo Ace - Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:56 pm
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Zing.

Purge - Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:11 pm
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There's Texas for you.

Quan Chi2 - Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:59 pm
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Purge, you jack ass.. When is the last time you walked through our gym? When is the last time you walked through our school? We have tons of banners and trophies.. state winnings.. town.. you name it.. We have it. And we are going to take the turkey bowl on thrusday.. What this kid named Michael Allen.

D1st0rt - Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:45 pm
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My school has the 20th best supercomputer in the world. (It was #3 when it was built a couple years ago).

We were also #3 a couple weeks ago.

Bak - Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:50 pm
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On one occasion, I couldn't play basketball with my friends in our gym because our division three basketball team was using one of three basketball courts. On another occasion the lacrosse team was using a single straightaway of the track that goes around all the basketball courts, and they would not allow a soul in to use the rest of the gym. Now this doesn't just happen once or twice, but every time I want to play basketball, either the gym is closed (it closes after noon on Saturday so we can get a head start on the drug taking), or there's some crappy team nobody cares about, such as Badminton practicing on our basketball courts. I pay $40,000 a year to go to this school; I didn't come here to watch our volleyball team. I would, however, enjoy being able to use the courts once in a while.

Sports suck up tons of money that could be much better spent. For example, as nice as it is to have a football field in the middle of campus, the average student would benefit more with a large parking lot that would cut 10 minutes off their walk to class every day. I've watched one football game on that field, and although it was good game with three feet of snow on the ground while there was a blizzard, there have been occasions when I have to walk to class in similar blizzards. Parking 10 minutes closer in those countless situations outweighs our division three championship. And it's not like they can't play, just why in the middle of fucking campus? They even put a fence around the field so we can't cross it as a shortcut to class.

Muskrat - Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:03 pm
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You pay 40k a year just for school and don't even live on campus? Where is this?

Purge - Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:18 pm
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Sports is free in my school. Then again, it's a high school.

D1st0rt - Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:06 am
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Sports aren't free at your school.

It's being paid for
With Your Money
That You Earned
At a Job

(where "you" represents taxpayers in your district, 50 points to whoever gets the reference)

There are also usually athletic boosters that contribute money, it has to come from somewhere.

Bak, you should go watch more football games.

newb - Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:55 am
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Solo Ace wrote:

What? We don't have such things, we have evacuation tests.
Fun? What's that?

Isn't Britain all private school'd?

LOL, private schools? Really ugly crappy ones, which you pay a big bill every year, but get crappy teaching. Trust me, you would do better off in a public school.
My school happens to be a tech college.

Quan Chi2 - Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:15 pm
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BaK has a few points but.. come on.. 10 minutes of walking? LMAO.. don't complain. 10 minutes of walking is easy, and good for you. I can't drive in New York state as of yet but I don't have a problem with walking and hour to go from the Heights to see a girl all the way from 167th. Also, its best to play football in the snow. It feels better when you hit someone and you cant feel any pain in your hands or arms due to the cold making you numb. Anyway, you get hyped and heated.. so you don't really feel it.

LearJett+ - Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:53 pm
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The reason why so much money is put into sports is because it makes so much money. Would the college make more money from a parking lot or entry fees from a football season?

Purge - Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:05 pm
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D1s, you're right, in a way. The tuition I pay for my school covers everything from sports to lunch.

Anonymous - Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:33 pm
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Jamaica is best for schools I conclude. Chill out man!

Quan Chi2 - Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:45 pm
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Spyed... LEAVE

Anonymous - Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:51 pm
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Why should I? You're no better!

Purge - Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:58 pm
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Yes he is.

Anonymous - Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:05 pm
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You're just saying that because he probably knows where you live. I'm willing to place good money he has followed you out of your home and taken pictures of you bumping into other people with briefcases and stupidly walking off with the wrong one.

Use the same model of case
Come alone, no cops
Swiss bank account... Money transfering..

Llala

Purge - Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:15 pm
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No, he's never followed me because he's too scared too even do such a thing.

Quan Chi2 - Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:50 pm
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Spyed, you really need a life.

MGB, make a redirect page just for Spyed. He seems to be obbsessed with typing this site into his URL bar on his browser.

LearJett+ - Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:32 pm
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A little bit of the pot calling the kettle black, eh?

SamHughes - Fri Nov 25, 2005 6:48 pm
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Bak wrote:

They even put a fence around the field so we can't cross it as a shortcut to class.

If there aren't any gates open, climb over the fence! I'll do it if you do it.

xsp0rtsfanx - Fri Nov 25, 2005 7:23 pm
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WHERE DO YOU LIVE! no offense but if i wrote papers like that where i live i'd be getting f's on a WHOLE lot of essays. i barely get c's and my writing isnt THAT unorganized and stuff like that. heck were you supposed to have an intro and all that?

Purge - Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:18 pm
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Man, California is more stupid than I've imagined.

newb - Sat Nov 26, 2005 6:28 am
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New Yorkers are just all stuck-up.

Purge - Sat Nov 26, 2005 12:58 pm
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newb wrote:

New Yorkers are just all stuck-up.

And English people are just all American wanna-bes.

Bak - Sat Nov 26, 2005 2:45 pm
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SamHughes wrote:

If there aren't any gates open, climb over the fence! I'll do it if you do it.

funny that we go to the same school.

10 minuntes isn't a problem if it's a one time thing, but I have to go to campus 1-3 times a day.

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The reason why so much money is put into sports is because it makes so much money. Would the college make more money from a parking lot or entry fees from a football season?

They're not making any money off the football games. We're a division three school for football and they don't charge you to go to the games.

So it's not as bad living off campus, $34,000

newb - Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:02 pm
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Purge+ wrote:

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And English people are just all American wanna-bes.

I don't want to be a fattie.

LearJett+ - Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:17 pm
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If Americans are fat then British people all wear funny hats and have bad teeth.

Wont a spote o' tay old chap?

Muskrat - Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:06 pm
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That's still an insane amount for tuition, you rich bastard.

Donkano - Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:14 pm
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43k a year just for education is insane, hell you could go on like 2 vacations and get 2 computers that are 3.2 GHz

Muskrat - Sat Nov 26, 2005 11:15 pm
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You could go to my school for 5 or 6 years on that.

Purge - Sat Nov 26, 2005 11:20 pm
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The college I'm planning to go to is around 30K per year. No, I'm not rich.

Cyan~Fire - Sun Nov 27, 2005 1:16 am
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Hah. I'm gonna go to college free!

And Lear, you suck at being British. (And they do all have bad teeth.)

D1st0rt - Sun Nov 27, 2005 2:44 am
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My tuition is about 5k/semester last I checked.

I'll probably regret this later, but I prefer Spyed over Quan Chi because he has a much happier demeanor. Quan Chi kind of reminds me of an old hermitty person.