Server Help

X-Angel · Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2002 3:48 am Post subject: Getting a zone started

Ok... I've followed every step in "How To" section of shanky.com to the letter. I open Subbill... it looks alright, then i open subgame2 and it connects to billing. I open continuum and download my zone. There is no ping next to the zone and I can't enter, getting an error that says it's not connected to the server. But nothing changes in the Subbill and subgame2 prompts. What am I doing wrong in editing the server.ini file? I'll send it to ya if you like. Any advice at all is greatly appreciated.

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SOS · Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2002 4:04 am Post subject:

Do you use any magic gizmo to connect to the internet? (router or stuff)
If yes, then forward the server port and server port + 1 to your computer.
(If server is 100 then forward 100 and 101)
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Dr Brain · Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2002 6:44 am Post subject:

you ALSO need to edit your zone.dat(in your cont folder) to use your local IP.

X-Angel · Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2002 10:56 am Post subject: Forward the server port?

Forward the server port? Do explain

SOS · Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2002 11:22 am Post subject:

It should be in your hub/router manual
Basically what it does is when someone tries to connect to the hub/router/whatever, it forwards the connectino to your computer, instead of ignoring it

Black Wraith · Guest Offline

I am having the same problem.

I'm still not sure what you mean regarding the port's though.
I changed the IP in the zones.dat file to my local.

Also, on another note, I am currently runnning stuff off my PC.
I assume there is a way to place onto a web server rather than my PC, and I do have a webspace to upload whatever to, but how do I do so?

I'm not really sure what to do, I have a host, but what do I need to do with this host to get it to run my Cont zone?

~Wraith

Xeo · Newbie Joined: Dec 14 2002 Posts: 19 Offline

lol it could also be that they forgot to put in the server(S) they want it to be listed under and just planly dont make it to continuum what so ever...
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Dr Brain · Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2002 11:02 pm Post subject:

web servers DO NOT run programs, as they could be viruses. Most zone hosts don't even want your copy of subgame.exe as it could be a virus, and they just copy their good copy over your's.

look in your firewall/router manual.

Black Wraith · Newbie Joined: Dec 14 2002 Posts: 3 Location: UK Offline

Ok...

I have changed the zone.dat file to my local IP address.
The zone will not connect to the server, and appears as red in the list.

Do I need to mess about with the ports to get it to work on only my computer?

I will sort out abuout it running on other's computers after.
I just want to test it, and make sure it is working.

Also, what IP is supposed to go in this field:

server.ini
[Misc]
ServerIP=
//Set to the server's IP #. This is used for *einfo's proxy detection

SOS · Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 11:08 am Post subject:

No, you don't need to mess with port forwarding for a local server.
Post the server.ini. All of it.

And ServerIP should be the outside IP of the server

Dr Brain · Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 12:26 pm Post subject:

make sure the changes you make to zone.dat are sticking too.

X-Angel · Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 1:24 pm Post subject:

So here's the deal. I can't get the ports forwarded because im using the colleges T3 connection, and like I would ever convince the administration to let me host a zone. Someone suggested something about using a pc anywhere program and using my computer as well as another computer to set up the zone. I have no idea how that would work, but a friend noted that we are on a closed network at the school. So basically its looking like im screwed.

Black Wraith · Newbie Joined: Dec 14 2002 Posts: 3 Location: UK Offline

I have another problem now....the whole thing doesn't seem to be working anymore.
When I run the subbill and subgame2, it tries to make a link, but always fails.
I'm not sure why it's changed overnight.

Anyways, server.ini, I can't show you all of it, it has loadsa stuff you shouldn't be seeing in it....like passwords and stuff.

reel bad · Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 3:27 pm Post subject:

SOS · Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2002 4:02 pm Post subject:

If you have biller related problems, post subbill.ini too

Black Wraith · Newbie Joined: Dec 14 2002 Posts: 3 Location: UK Offline

Ok, I'll try and sort something out by tommorow and I'll post it here.
I'll post it as-is, I wont bother making any changes tonight.

Katie · Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2002 12:53 pm Post subject:

I have a question on top of that. When you edit your local IP into the zone.dat, only computers are allowed to connect to the server, due to using the same IP. If you have the zone.dat changed to your local IP, computers outside the LAN can't connect. I probably already know that this is because of the router ignoring the players PC IP, right? Basically, I'm just trying to ask if I'm right by saying that you need to have the firewall forward the IP to your server, otherwise it ignores it. So I HAVE to let the router forward the connection attempt?

TIA

Katie

Dr Brain · Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2002 5:32 pm Post subject:

The zone.dat is for people INSIDE the LAN. It will only work for inside people (you are on the LAN).

The router/firewall forwarding is for people outside the LAN. It will only work for outside people.

These two things do not need to be done at the same time. They are independent.

There is a chance that the "gateway" forwarding will also allow LAN people to play, but most "gateway devices" dont like packets addressed to their outside coming from the inside, so I recomend the zone.dat fix, because it is independent of the model of firewall/router.

ease · Newbie Age:36 Gender: Joined: Dec 29 2002 Posts: 4 Offline

I'm having the exact same problems as they are,i can get the zone to show up, i just cant enter it, i know u already told me to forward the ports brain, and i thank you for that...but...i can't find my router manual...i looked everywhere, is there anyway you could explain to me how to forward my ports?

...i have everything good except for that forwarding the ports, i dont understand it, help would be appreciated, sry to bother you again, and yes i fixed my zone.dat

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Dr Brain · Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2002 7:20 pm Post subject:

Its distinct from router to router, we cant realy help. You might try the manufacturer's site.

ease · Newbie Age:36 Gender: Joined: Dec 29 2002 Posts: 4 Offline

I have a linksys router, and i looked at the site, what exactly should i be looking for? forwarding points? i dont understand what that is...

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ok, i downloaded the guide for my router from the website, and i looked through it, what should i be looking for in it? : /

ease · Newbie Age:36 Gender: Joined: Dec 29 2002 Posts: 4 Offline

k lesse here im in my router now from the website....and i found PORT RANGE FORWARDING....in it it has a ____to____ a protocol TCP and a protocol UDP....they are both check boxes....which one do i check? then it has my router IP and a box saying enable....say i wanted to use port 7000 for my server would i fill the blanks like 7000 to 7001 and select enable and type in my router ip....but do i check protocol TCP or Protocol UDP?

Dr Brain · Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2002 9:59 pm Post subject:

UDP, and the IP is the IP of the computer the zone is running on.

ease · Newbie Age:36 Gender: Joined: Dec 29 2002 Posts: 4 Offline

OMFG, thank you!, i finally got the stupid think to work

thanks for all ur help dr brain !