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instead of banning the cheaters prevent the cheating
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:32 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Now that would be incorrect.

"We" are all aware of what it collects and what can be collected.

The methods of banning and avoid them been discussed thoroughly for several times already, I would not divouldge into it.
This is not a "how to cheat" forum.

At the end of the day it is quite possible to evade a net ban, no matter how "really" they want to ban one, if one is to invest the necessary amount of resources.

And that really isn't also a problem.
For one, cheating is currently quite hard unless you're a proficient hacker or had some hacker do the ground work for you.
Secondly, almost all forms of cheating can be monitored for if you raise suspicion (and those obvious enough will trigger an almost instant ban).
Third, if cheating grew to become epidemic, switch permission mode to lock new comers to spec, have staff release and throw out players as needed.

Evading bans or not, it will take cought cheaters some time to get back, and even they do if they're stupid enough to cheat again they'll just get cought and thrown out again.
So it's really something only a bored person, who doesn't really want to play the game rather just cause grief, would do.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:43 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

couldn't you just go to the library, lol
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:53 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

50% Packetloss wrote:
banG collects a lot more data than just your macID and your IP, hardware info is also collected. Continuum probably sends even more hardware info than subspace's login sequence does. Thus, if they really want to ban you, then you arn't coming back.


As I already said, we have some players in TW who are constantly evading Netbans, cheating and also passing cheats to others.

Cyan~Fire I don't know if you're joking or not, but cheating is getting pretty prevalent. The other day in TW we had a player named Alaskan passing out a URL which had instructions of how to do several memory cheats in Continuum using a program called the "Cheat Engine" (A memory hacker which is not just for Continuum). These cheats included infinite energy, pixel hack (make your ship whatever size you wish) and quite a few others.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:25 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

TW wrote:
The other day in TW we had a player named Alaskan passing out a URL which had instructions of how to do several memory cheats in Continuum using a program called the "Cheat Engine" (A memory hacker which is not just for Continuum).


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Clueless people make me laugh.



I remember years ago I had this really old version of CE and I used it to create thie save game editor for warcraft 2 that would give you FFFF (65535) of all three resources types.
Was that saddest thing ever.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:27 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Your point being?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 10:24 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

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As I already said, we have some players in TW who are constantly evading Netbans, cheating and also passing cheats to others.

Cyan~Fire I don't know if you're joking or not, but cheating is getting pretty prevalent. The other day in TW we had a player named Alaskan passing out a URL which had instructions of how to do several memory cheats in Continuum using a program called the "Cheat Engine" (A memory hacker which is not just for Continuum). These cheats included infinite energy, pixel hack (make your ship whatever size you wish) and quite a few others.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 11:26 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Have people Download a Free CD-Key to use Continuum.

CD-Key Allowing Continuum Added Security. Yay.

And the CD-Key will be Free for Download.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 11:29 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Nice bump.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 11:30 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:40 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

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Have people Download a Free CD-Key to use Continuum.

CD-Key Allowing Continuum Added Security. Yay.

And the CD-Key will be Free for Download.


If the CD-Key will be free and so will the game, what use will it bring?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:43 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Spyed - Games which ban on Cd Key are much more effective then banning on IP. So if you get banned on Subspace it's much easier to bypass it if you have the knowledge then go out to the shop and buy another copy. I think Counter strike source is Cd key now.

Cd-Key Could Log Their Ip Information Machine Id. Etc. Everytime they Log in It could store That Kind of Info.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:47 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

The server/bot/biller is already capable of storing IP and MacID information...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 2:01 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

it's why it's a Trash Forum.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 5:12 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

If the cd key is free for download, when someone is banned they will simply get a new cd key.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 5:35 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Heres an idea. HOW ABOUT YOU PROGRAMMERS JUST GET GAME GUARD!?!?

it makes it impossible for newbies to cheat!!!!!!!!!!!!

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50% Packetloss wrote:
You have no idea how bans work. Only a *kill can be bypassed; if you get netbanned, you are never coming back unless you go buy a new comp and get another ISP.


That is almost totally untrue. And if you believe that, then you have another thing comming when you ban some newb for cheating in your zone. You CAN come back, and its way too easy. You must be thinking of a subnet ban then. I heard those are a doozy to bypass. A new computer to bypass a ban? What are you talking about? You have more sense than this.
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