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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 1:14 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
Cyan~Fire wrote:
Acutally, all filesharing services are legal. The legality depends on their use.

A question had come up to me when I was giving a "seminar" er "speech" icon_wink.gif on the Internet and WWW. I basically told them, if i were to write a p2p application, I shouldn't be held liable for what the user's do with it.

As someone brought up the point, it'd be like sueing Xerox for allowing people to copy copyrighted material; etc. ..
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 2:37 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
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As someone brought up the point, it'd be like sueing Xerox for allowing people to copy copyrighted material; etc. ..

They (MPAA/TV/I don't remember) tried to stop Sony from making a VCR, because they said it would be used for only illegal purposes. Try as they might, they failed, but not after large legal battles.

P2P will end up having the same fate, but the problem is that legal battles arn't cheap. Thus, the MPAA/RIAA can easily just threaten small P2P companies, and their choices are to shutdown and pay them $20,000 or to fight it and maybe win, but end up costing them $100,000+.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:18 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
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"The Supreme Court agreed Friday to consider whether two Internet file-sharing services may be held responsible for their customers' online swapping of copyrighted songs and movies. Justices will review a lower ruling in favor of Grokster Ltd. and StreamCast Networks Inc., which came as a blow to recording companies and movie studios seeking to stop the illegal distribution of their works." Grokster won in the lower courts, but the studios are appealing. This case, when finally decided, will be equivalent to the Betamax case 20 years ago which ensured that VCRs were legal.


Oh gosh... now the Supreme Court is going to hear it...
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:58 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
Ya Betamax pissed the movie people off bigtime, but you can't fuck with Sony. sa_tongue.gif

Anyways, nowadays they make more cash on video rentals and sales than in-theater profits. Stupid hoes.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 1:32 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
I sure hope there are some trusty geeks out there advising the Justices that essentially visting a website is a P2P action... etc. :/
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 3:12 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
Eh that reminds me to the classmate who got kicked out of my other school's "media center" (some room with like 30 computers and a bunch of books / desks) for "downloading" (well, that's what one of those jobless observers called it).

We complained to her and said that browsing to a webpage is downloading (partially) too.
Too bad she didn't understand and he still had to leave. icon_sad.gif
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:09 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
Cyph wrote:
essentially visting a website is a P2P action

No, a website is purely client-server.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:38 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote
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Uh, you can't ask BitTorrent for an opinion, you can google for user opinions.
He asked for good virus protection software, not for a way to download one.


Um, he also said that he downloads his other files off Shareaza, which is a P2P service I suggested him not to use. I didn't say get BitTorrent to download a Virus Scanner.
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