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| And really pretty code that takes you three years to figure out how to work is by those who learned Brainfuck. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 10:50 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Java isn't just for lazy people. It's for people who don't care about an ugly GUI who want their program to work right the first time in 1/2 the time it would take to write it in C++.
I find that lazy java coders are easy to spot. They are sloppy with their whitespace and don't label functions well. But the same problem exists in C++, just no one cares.
That said, Java is no longer my primary programming language. But through no fault of Java.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 11:07 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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c++ is a poluted language... especially thanks to MS VC++ and this new "Managed" shit with .NET
(i will resisit the urge to make this a language-political thread right here and now)
but, en passant, i submit the following:
the D Programming Language
the Chef programming language
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 11:09 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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| Dr Brain wrote: | | That said, Java is no longer my primary programming language. But through no fault of Java. |
honestly, i don't consider java a true language. It's not compiled. I have learned to consider it high-level graphical cross-platofrm scripting.
In the end, we're all "assisted" asm programmers |
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Okay, here's something that's been bugging the shit out of me, albeit a tiny thing. I see tons of identifiers in various chunks of code, be it PHP or Java or C++ in which prefixes such as 'fn' and 'fc' are used. I did a little Google research and found that this naming convention is called "Hungarian Notation." However, that's about all I could find. I couldn't find any document which actually explained the significance of each individual prefix. So then, what the hell do those damn prefixes mean?! When do I use 'fc' versus 'fn'? I figure someone here will be be able to explain this to me. :]
On a side note, something tells me this is a little bit of knowledge I should have picked up in one of my introductory CS courses. Bad RIT (That's the school I was attending.) for not teaching it to me. :/ |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 11:17 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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from microsoft developer network
Hungarian Notation
i generally ignore it.
i have seen entire open source (successful) projects without it |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 11:21 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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| Alright, so that nails most of them down. Still, is 'fc' some kind of combination of prefixes? |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 1:44 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Hungarian Notation was good, back when you'd edit code in a simple text editor. But, with IDEs and kickass text editors, you don't need to remember if JoeColor was an int, short, or string. And with functions, it tells you what each argument in the function requires as you type it, thus making it not required for that either.
Technology killed this notation. Windows still uses it for their API, but I havn't seen much of it since. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 3:57 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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| I guess that's why RIT never bothered to teach it to me then. Thanks, as always, for the informative post MGB. |
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| Quote: | std::cout << "test" << std::endl; |
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Without looking at the tutorials, is this right? namespace std;
void my_func()
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cout << "test" << endl;
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| Quote: | | I find that lazy java coders are easy to spot |
Am I a lazy Java programmer? I would prefer not to be lazy while at the same time taking advantage of the RAD capabilities of Java. |
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| Quote: | | Am I a lazy Java programmer? I would prefer not to be lazy while at the same time taking advantage of the RAD capabilities of Java. |
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RIT? is that Rochester Institute of Technology? They keep spamming me to go there.
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@Smong, that will work as long as you don't include 'iostream.h', since there's also a non-STL cout and endl.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 6:27 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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| You should learn to do printf. Much nicer, in my opinion, once you get the hang of it. Though, if you suck at remembing that %s doesn't work for ints, then you may not want to use it. |
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| D1st0rt wrote: | | RIT? is that Rochester Institute of Technology? They keep spamming me to go there. |
Yep, that's RIT. It's a great school if you're a hardcore nerd concerned only with programming/engineering. If you're like any normal college kid though, prepare to be bored shitless and probably depressed too. It's a drab and dreary place. Another thing to take note of is the fact that there is roughly a 7:1 guy to girl ratio. That's right, every party you go to will be one giant sausage fest. Yay!
I'm getting the fuck out of there and heading south, possibly to the University of Maryland or Virigina Tech. |
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| Jason wrote: | | I'm getting the fuck out of there and heading south, possibly to the University of Maryland or Virigina Tech. |
you call that south??? damn yankee... |
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From one who lives in maryland, and knows people ho go there, dont. They have good areonotics and other junk, but just stay out. For your own good.
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Helicon, I call it south relative to Rochester, NY. Yes, I'm a yankee as I was born and raised in northeastern PA, but I have spent quite a bit of time in the south over the years, mostly in Tennessee, Florida and Louisiana. :]
Splody, any recommendations of other schools down that way then, perhaps even in the DC area? |
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Im saying from a cultural (or lack thereof) aspect, dont come here. Yea its got all those monuments and the whole Smithsonian thing, buts its either extremely tourist or extremely political. Its boring here. In fact, I dont know a single adult who lives here now who actually grew up around here, they get fed up with it in a few years. Everyone around here in school wants to leave. No, Im not exaggerating in the least.
Thats not to say that Maryland isnt a good school, Im sure its fine. I can rattle off a long list of schools around here if youd like.
South Eastern University
American University
Maryland University
University of DC
Shaw-Howard Universit
Georgetown University
George Mason University
George Washington University
Catholic University
Virginia Tech
University of Virginia
And many more!
Heres something if youre seriously considereing location, the Metro (subway) system map, most of the stations share names with the school they are close to. So if you want an escape plan to Regan National Airport, enjoy
http://www.wmata.com/metrorail/systemmap.cfm
BTW, for those who care, my school is two blocks from Union Station |
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| UMD and Tech are my 1st two choices for college, and I grew up in PG County, MD. Now I'm in fairfax, but im really still from PG. |
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| Maybe I'll see you there at one of 'em then! |
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| Jason wrote: | | MGB, thanks for the offer about the PDFs, but unfortunately I'm on dialup so 100megs is out of the question. |
hehehe, 100 megs is big for dial up??? you should see my stats for one month!!
(stats for one month on dial-up)
Total Time | Total Uploads | Total Downloads
736h 43m | 2711.58 MB | 3207.27 MB
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| Sweet Jesus man! I'm home from school, where I was downloading 700MB movies in under a minute. What a smack in the face dialup has been. :/ |
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