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Quan Chi2 Member of "Sexy Teenagers that Code" Group

Age:34 Gender: Joined: Mar 25 2005 Posts: 860 Location: NYC Offline
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:50 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: Reverse Engineering ebooks/tutorials |
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Does anyone have any good tutorials on reverse engineering? Im looking for some and wondering if you guys had any tutorials. |
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Mine GO BOOM Hunch Hunch What What

Age:41 Gender: Joined: Aug 01 2002 Posts: 3615 Location: Las Vegas Offline
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:53 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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There are tons of things you can reverse engineer, would you like to be specific?
Like, are you trying to determine how parts of your cellphone works so you could add extra hardware to it? Reverse engineer the XBox 360? Taking apart your dryer to remove the overly loud buzzing noise in your new apartment? Strip out Continuum's encryption code? Extending your house's plumbing system to a new room/floor? Figuring out the secret ingredients to gummy bears? |
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Quan Chi2 Member of "Sexy Teenagers that Code" Group

Age:34 Gender: Joined: Mar 25 2005 Posts: 860 Location: NYC Offline
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:55 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Software. |
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Mine GO BOOM Hunch Hunch What What

Age:41 Gender: Joined: Aug 01 2002 Posts: 3615 Location: Las Vegas Offline
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:05 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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What part of software? You looking into figuring out a networking protocol? Trying to determine how the software interacts with other software on the same system? Custom designing a parallel port application for a really old IBM PS/2 case LCD? Stripping out ASM directly from an application and reusing it without actually knowing how it works? Trying to find which ASM to strip out? Deciphering a proprietary file format? Hijacking a running application to send it messages it wasn't originally designed for, and handling functions instead with your own? Trying to change the icon for Word? |
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Quan Chi2 Member of "Sexy Teenagers that Code" Group

Age:34 Gender: Joined: Mar 25 2005 Posts: 860 Location: NYC Offline
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:11 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Everything. Okay? Then it covers all bases. Oh, but that stripping out ASM directly from an app and reusing without actually knowing how it works sounds good.
Anything you have or can find on it, I want. I want to read all of it and try anything I can. I have time to learn. So, anything you can find. Probably server software is what I mainly want to reverse engineer, but anything else too.
**edit: Ah, okay master guru MGB. I see what you did. You gave me things to search. lol Excellent work. Wow. lol. You didnt have to speak in riddles lol. |
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Chambahs Power attack

Joined: Jun 19 2005 Posts: 820 Offline
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:02 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Lol, MGB cracks me the fuck up....
Why didnt you use the...HANDY DANDY GOOGLE TAG? |
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Mine GO BOOM Hunch Hunch What What

Age:41 Gender: Joined: Aug 01 2002 Posts: 3615 Location: Las Vegas Offline
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:16 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Actually, I wasn't trying to get him to Google on his own, as I knew he wouldn't. He asked a very open ended question, I just tried to narrow it down. I assumed from the start he is trying to do something illicit with Continuum or ASSS and teased the information out of him. |
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BDwinsAlt Agurus's Posse

Age:34 Gender: Joined: Jun 16 2003 Posts: 1145 Location: Alabama Offline
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:20 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Please Please Please tell me he isn't going to work with ASSS.
I don't want ASSS to get a bad reputation. |
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Muskrat Server Help Squatter

Age:38 Joined: Aug 24 2004 Posts: 829 Location: Swamp Offline
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:23 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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I re-plumbed a bathroom once, that stuff sucks. Crawling around under houses, soddering that crap, reading about all the different valves and stuff you need. Next time I'll take being gouged by some fat plumber. |
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Quan Chi2 Member of "Sexy Teenagers that Code" Group

Age:34 Gender: Joined: Mar 25 2005 Posts: 860 Location: NYC Offline
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:31 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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What I want to do has nothing to do with Continuum. Its an interesting subject to explore, and I want to get in on it. Str0ke told me about DefCon and I googled some footage of previous DefCons. I saw the 2005 version and one of the contests consisted of reverse engineering. I heard about it once before but never researched it, so I want to learn now. |
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Doc Flabby Server Help Squatter

Joined: Feb 26 2006 Posts: 636 Offline
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:28 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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reverse engineering is hard....having had a small go at revese egineering continuum reallised i was wayy outta my depth , but i got a debugger to attach which is not very easy to do...
You need to understand how the computer and os works. And u need to understand assembly to reverse engineer... _________________ Rediscover online gaming. Get Subspace | STF The future...prehaps |
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Sercit 99.5% Optimistic

Age:41 Gender: Joined: Sep 12 2003 Posts: 352 Offline
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:36 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Mine GO BOOM wrote: | Actually, I wasn't trying to get him to Google on his own, as I knew he wouldn't. He asked a very open ended question, I just tried to narrow it down. I assumed from the start he is trying to do something illicit with Continuum or ASSS and teased the information out of him. |
Yeah, but that's always been the problem with people on these boards. Usually when they ask for something they only ask a really fucking open-ended question that can be answered several different ways from sunday, or they ask something that could easily be responded to by doing a quick google search.
It's like with the "I need a bot!" threads.
NoobehAdmin: I ned a bot!
Us: Oookay.. Well you can download a MervBot Core.
NoobehAdmin: u sux. I need cuztom!
Us: Well, there are "thousands" of plug-ins for Merv..
NoobehAdmin: CUZTOM!!1 Every1 has MerBot. >(
Us: Cause there is no point in redoing the code for a bot that there is a decent quality already out there for...
NoobehAdmin: Fuck u nubz. |
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Chambahs Power attack

Joined: Jun 19 2005 Posts: 820 Offline
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:55 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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A more recent example of this behavior found here |
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Assassin2684 Server Help Squatter

Age:34 Gender: Joined: Jul 27 2004 Posts: 990 Location: Florida Offline
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:17 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Yes acctually that was a perfect example. |
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Cerium Server Help Squatter

Age:42 Gender: Joined: Mar 05 2005 Posts: 807 Location: I will stab you. Offline
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:56 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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BDwinsAlt wrote: | Please Please Please tell me he isn't going to work with ASSS.
I don't want ASSS to get a bad reputation. |
Give up this uber fanboy-ism; its fucking annoying. When you were making TWCore bots you wouldnt stop ranting about how great TWCore is, before that it was Merv and Im sure before THAT it was how delicious a McDonalds cheeseburger is.
We get it, you really like the things you like. Shut up already.
Also, for the record:
Typically, you dont need to reverse-engineer something thats open source. _________________ There are 7 user(s) ignoring me right now. |
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(Deactived B l a h e r) BiLinux User I can take it both ways
Age:34 Gender: Joined: Mar 25 2005 Posts: 341 Location: East Sparta, Ohio Offline
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:24 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Mine GO BOOM wrote: | Strip out Continuum's encryption code? |
Yes, please!
That would be so funny, if Priit Kasesalu made a book called "Continuum encryption for Dummies"... But, that dream will never come true.  |
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Quan Chi2 Member of "Sexy Teenagers that Code" Group

Age:34 Gender: Joined: Mar 25 2005 Posts: 860 Location: NYC Offline
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:30 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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My question was open ended, but it was open ended for a reason. I want ANY tutorials you guys found on the subject as a whole. I could have been specific if I wanted something specific, but thats not the case. |
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Cerium Server Help Squatter

Age:42 Gender: Joined: Mar 05 2005 Posts: 807 Location: I will stab you. Offline
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:46 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Its too open-ended, thats your problem. Its not some magical language or art that people master, its just a process using various bits of knowledge. What you need to know heavily depends on what youre trying to do, hence all the questions. |
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Quan Chi2 Member of "Sexy Teenagers that Code" Group

Age:34 Gender: Joined: Mar 25 2005 Posts: 860 Location: NYC Offline
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:53 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Oh, okay. Fair enough. |
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BDwinsAlt Agurus's Posse

Age:34 Gender: Joined: Jun 16 2003 Posts: 1145 Location: Alabama Offline
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:00 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Cerium wrote: | [..]
Give up this uber fanboy-ism; its fucking annoying. When you were making TWCore bots you wouldnt stop ranting about how great TWCore is, before that it was Merv and Im sure before THAT it was how delicious a McDonalds cheeseburger is.
We get it, you really like the things you like. Shut up already.
Also, for the record:
Typically, you dont need to reverse-engineer something thats open source. |
Everytime you flame me and give me special attention it makes me feel warm inside. I love you Cerium. |
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Cyan~Fire I'll count you!

Age:37 Gender: Joined: Jul 14 2003 Posts: 4608 Location: A Dream Offline
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:17 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Install Age of Empires II, decompress empires2_x1.dat (it's raw DEFLATE), and figure out what all that crap is.
That's what I'm working on right now.
PS: The above post was just scary. _________________ This help is informational only. No representation is made or warranty given as to its content. User assumes all risk of use. Cyan~Fire assumes no responsibility for any loss or delay resulting from such use.
Wise men STILL seek Him. |
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Animate Dreams Gotta buy them all! (Consumer whore)

Age:37 Gender: Joined: May 01 2004 Posts: 821 Location: Middle Tennessee Offline
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:13 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Yet it makes me sad, because Cerium has never flamed me.... 8( |
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Solo Ace Yeah, I'm in touch with reality...we correspond from time to time.

Age:37 Gender: Joined: Feb 06 2004 Posts: 2583 Location: The Netherlands Offline
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:01 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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21:55 < nano[coding]> http://forums.minegoboom.com/viewtopic.php?t=6484
21:55 -!- kollek is now known as [myg0t]h4x^^
21:56 <%Most_Wanted> what are u coding?
21:56 <+nycto> nano[coding]: wtf you go to mgb forums?
21:56 -!- WhYnoR [~myself@lcirc-5EC05E9E.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )]
21:56 < nano[coding]> yes
21:56 <+nycto> happen to play continuum?
21:56 < nano[coding]> yes
21:56 <+nycto> fucker
21:56 <+nycto> whats your alias?
21:56 < nano[coding]> lol?
21:56 <+nycto> lol
21:56 < nano[coding]> Quan
21:56 <+nycto> quan chi?
21:56 < nano[coding]> of course
21:57 < nano[coding]> Im Quan Chi2 |
Right. |
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Quan Chi2 Member of "Sexy Teenagers that Code" Group

Age:34 Gender: Joined: Mar 25 2005 Posts: 860 Location: NYC Offline
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:05 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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You're a funny guy. |
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Solo Ace Yeah, I'm in touch with reality...we correspond from time to time.

Age:37 Gender: Joined: Feb 06 2004 Posts: 2583 Location: The Netherlands Offline
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:06 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Is this real? I'm not the nycto person... that was ntfx. |
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