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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 11:17 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Um... Reply to topic Reply with quote

http://www.halturnershow.com/KeystrokeLoggersInAllNewComputers.html
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 11:49 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Oh fantastic... and I just got a new laptop.

Guess it wont hurt to rip it apart and look for one of those buggers...


==Edit==
Aparently someone tried this same thing with Dell previously:
http://www.snopes.com/computer/internet/dellbug.asp

The article you linked is identical except that 'Dell' has been replaced by 'Manufacture'.

Whew.

==Edit #2==
Thanks for replying before I hit 'refresh' Sam.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:04 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

http://www.snopes.com/computer/internet/dellbug.asp
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:09 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Considering them things run around 100 bucks no wonder a laptop is so expensive lol but in regards to this its BS and it shouldn't be allowed... my guess is it is a way for them to crack down on hackers since they can use a laptop anywhere at anytime.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:37 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Looks like i'll be lookin in my new laptop when i get it. I dont feel comfortable when the goverment is watching everything i do, its invading my privacy as a computer user. And invading others privacy also.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:44 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I hope the US Government enjoyed wasting the tax payer's money in all the time they invest in reviewing the globe's cyber-sex chat logs.



They just keep pushing and pushing...
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:54 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I hope they push it too far, and then they won't be allowed to do what they're doing under our noses now.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:40 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

That is very interesting...It would be wise to submit this to a news station, IE Fox news/O'reilly/Shawn Hannity, and see what they think of it.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 3:54 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Doesn't Fox do a thing called FOX on your side? If i remember you can complain about a company or whatever to them and they will research it and make a story out of it if its true
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 6:03 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Who cares? Google is watching us already.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:48 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Solo Ace wrote:
Who cares? Google is watching us already.


Good point.


However still, if they push too far, I'm not concerned with supposed so-called citizen uproar and restricting them from doing so.
I hope for a catalyst of creating wide technical awareness in the ignorant public.
Nowdays, over half the userbase doesn't know how to properly maintain a box with MS OS.
Hopefuly, with enough pushing, the hunger for privacy and control over your own machine dwell enough to raise the masses onto a mediocre linux administrators, which in itself would only serve as a jumping board base towards further technical expertese.
Then, one day, the government, any of them, will end up waking onto a new dawn where the single citizen isn't so digitaly-alone nor unaware anymore.
And trying to pull any government, RIAA or otherwise tricks will simply bring a backlashing onslaught of hacker-level general users.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:52 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Switch to Linux and make an anti-keylogger. icon_lol.gif
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:19 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

You could always buy a Canadian laptop if it were true.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:22 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I trust Google more than I do the government.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 3:07 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

i88gerbils wrote:
You could always buy a Canadian laptop if it were true.


When will Americans ever learn.....

Why is Canada better than America?
1) Canada has a tax-payed health system where everyone is equal.
2) Canada doesn't have it's government looking down everyone's backs because they know what the people want.
3) Canada is fully democratic and they look for the best because if they screw up then it costs them the next election.
4) Peace is greater than war.
5) Welfare for poor people.
6) Canada protects it's Citizens.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 3:14 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

higher taxes

and I've heard the health care is poorer, but I think that's a political lie
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 3:38 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

America also has welfare.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 6:00 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Bak wrote:
higher taxes

and I've heard the health care is poorer, but I think that's a political lie


Higher taxes because money is pooled together on a lot of things.

The health care is poorer because it is a system that if 1 person falls, everyone falls with.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:08 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

So what, you have to be black to be on welfare in the US. sa_tongue.gif
Err if your black you ARE on welfare in the US.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:17 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:06 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:18 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Donkano wrote:
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When will Americans ever learn.....

Why is Canada better than America?
1) Canada has a tax-payed health system where everyone is equal.
2) Canada doesn't have it's government looking down everyone's backs because they know what the people want.
3) Canada is fully democratic and they look for the best because if they screw up then it costs them the next election.
4) Peace is greater than war.
5) Welfare for poor people.
6) Canada protects it's Citizens.


Erm, If i get this correct, *When will BUSH ever learn?*

And not to be racist and whatnot. When will illegal aliens (Mexicans, Etc.) ever learn to come to the US Legal? We should really put that wall up on the mexican border with an electric fence and stuff. But wait, we americans prolly can't do that since bush started coming out of his shell telling the truth about falty explosions and stuff in iraq. And then giving money to re-build when they already have enough money. Fuck i hate bush. Stupid ass doesnt know what he's doing.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:33 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Holy shit, that question about putting up a wall was on my final exam in Comms.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:50 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

BDwinsAlt... wrote:
So what, you have to be black to be on welfare in the US. sa_tongue.gif
Err if your black you ARE on welfare in the US.


That is by far the most ignorant thing i've ever seen on this forum... Not all black people are poor and nor are all people on welfare black... I hope you burn in hell for that comment and some black guys beat your ass with your own arms... new_let_it_all_out.gif
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That is by far the most ignorant thing i've ever seen on this forum... Not all black people are poor and nor are all people on welfare black... I hope you burn in hell for that comment and some black guys beat your ass with your own arms... new_let_it_all_out.gif


Yeah, BD. Come to NYC and see what happens.
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