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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:04 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Unexpected restart Reply to topic Reply with quote

I have been having this problem for quite some time now and wonder what it is, for some odd reason my PC seems like it "crashes" or something, and just ranomly restarts when doing something on it. I remember Microsoft said that it had something to do with memory something and there was summit on their website I could download but I have seemed to forget the name of it. Can anyone help me? (Windows XP pro OS)
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:18 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

What kind of RAM do you have, and how much? Also, what's your CPU speed?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:20 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

512mb of RAM, not sure what kind (how do you check) and 2.41 GHz is the speed
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:49 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Run memtest86 for a couple of hours. I'd recommend using Ultimate Boot CD to run the test, as then you'll have a nice bootable CD with a ton of extras.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 5:35 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

There's a way to boot windows so that it won't restart on driver errors. I did it once before, but I don't recall how I did it, and don't have the time to find it again.

This will help you locate the source of your problem if it's not a memory error (try MGB's solution first) and is instead a driver conflict.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 5:56 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

My machine ran fine for 2+ years. But I went through hell the last couple of months when it started shutting down for no reason. It would just click off with no warning. I tried new RAM, new power supply, new motherboard, new CPU, with/without video card. Nothing worked.

Then I found an article regarding my motherboard (Asus). Turns out, if you use the stock Intel sink/fan (comes with P4) on socket 478, it clamps so tightly, that the Aus boards bend too much. This causes random reboots and shutdowns.

$400 later, I paid $15 for a nice Asus sink/fan with bendy metal clips (they go on much easier too), and all is well. And I almost have a spare computer with all the new parts I bought.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 6:35 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Now that you mentioned that Ekted, I had a problem before with my computer shutting down and restarting.

My CPU would overheat and either freeze, shutdown, or restart. So I got a new fan, and it hasn't done that since.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:06 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Hm, I do remember recieving that "windows has just encountered a serious error" (summit like that) when ever the computer restarted that way. So I clicked "send error report" to microsoft, and it redriected me to this link on their website, but now I don't recieve that error anymore after the restarts. I wish i knew it's name :/
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:15 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Did you check errors in your local derive?
Click on the my computer, right click, properties.
Click check now.

Click on both options and it will scan for errors and even check the whole system. Plus you need to restart your computer.




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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:57 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I will try that, but I remember Microsoft saying it was some kind of memory issue. Then again, I do not have another fan in my PC besides the power fan...(that the prob mbe?)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:07 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Ok, tell me the results after those scans.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:10 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Control Panel / System / Advanced / Startup and Recovery / System Failure / Automatically Restart
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:12 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Agurus wrote:
I will try that, but I remember Microsoft saying it was some kind of memory issue. Then again, I do not have another fan in my PC besides the power fan...(that the prob mbe?)


You don't have a CPU fan? Heatsink?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:21 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Damn. I think your computer might start to melt any day now Agurus. lol
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:45 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Anything in Event Viewer in Adminsitrative Tools? Probably unlikely if it is a hardware issue.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:16 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I saw it's the fan to your CPU. I doubt that any system scans can fix it Default+. This is a hardware issue.

What do you have for a cooling device on your CPU Agurus?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:09 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

The only fan I have is the power supply fan, and I do have a heatsink on proccessor
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:18 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Have you been in the BIOS?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:00 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Agurus, I'd suggest going out and buying a proper fan for your CPU. It's possible that your CPU is over heating. One way to check, is to go into BIOS, and depending on what version you have, go into a PC Health section, or look for your CPU Temp. If you find it, post the Temp here.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:41 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I always seem to hit 40 celsius on my computer now. But no problems. icon_smile.gif
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:55 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Ahhh, stop posting retard suggestions, people.

Gerbils is on the right track here. Usually it'll have a system message something like "The computer has restarted from a bugcheck" if it's a hardware issue. It's been a while since something like this happened to me (happened a lot with my old Chaintech motherboard), so I'm not sure if that's the exact message.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:26 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

mabe its cuz ur CPU fell out
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:08 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Solo Ace wrote:
mabe its cuz ur CPU fell out


LOL.

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stop posting retard suggestions
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:28 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I hope you understood that Solo's post was a joke, newb.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:45 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Yeah, I knew it was a joke. sa_tongue.gif
I actually laughed out loud at that, lol.
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