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blackmoon Novice
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 2:46 pm Post subject: Sysop/SMOD/MOD Validation |
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I know that if a mod logs in with the MOD password appended to his password separated by an *, he will get MOD powers. I also know there is a list that the server can check with to validate the correct MODs are logged in. How do I set the validation??
CheckMod=1
CheckSMod=1
CheckSysop=1
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CheckMod=0
CheckSMod=0
CheckSysop=0
Now... can someone who is NOT on a Sysop/SMOD/MOD list still use the password to log in and get certain powers??? _________________ No, that was just a love tap... here's the bitch slap!
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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The check just makes it so that a player who is already on sysop.txt or whatever has to use the pass to log in.
If you dont have the pass you just need to be on the list.
Players who know teh pass cannot get that power since they're not on the list. |
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, set validation is one |
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blackmoon Novice
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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okies... thanks! |
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 7:49 am Post subject: |
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Actually with mod, you don't need the password if you're on the list. |
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CypherJF I gargle nitroglycerin

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 9:44 am Post subject: |
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Can someone confirm this; if all the validation files are empty; but you have validations on; a person is still able to get "powers" if they know the password. :/ _________________ Performance is often the art of cheating carefully. - James Gosling |
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SuSE Me measures good

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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CypherJF wrote: | Can someone confirm this; if all the validation files are empty; but you have validations on; a person is still able to get "powers" if they know the password. :/ |
if all validations are on (=1) and there is nobody on any of the .txt's, no one can use any powers - sysop, smod, mod, none of them
there are still some things you can do if you know the password, however - like see private arenas or be on staff chat (if you know what it is)
this is because validation does not GIVE powers, it merely DENIES the execution of most commands for people that are not on the txt's
short version: passwords give powers, validation restricts powers
Last edited by SuSE on Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:25 pm, edited 1 time in total |
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SuSE Me measures good

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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Anonymous wrote: | The check just makes it so that a player who is already on sysop.txt or whatever has to use the pass to log in.
If you dont have the pass you just need to be on the list.
Players who know teh pass cannot get that power since they're not on the list. |
this is all wrong  |
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L. Chance Newbie
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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SuSE wrote: |
if all validations are on (=1) and there is nobody on any of the .txt's, no one can use any powers - sysop, smod, mod, none of them |
This is not correct. I have seen for myself, with the sysop.txt devoid of any names, someone logging in to a zone using the sysop password and *recycle(ing) the zone. A glitch perhaps? |
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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Was sysop validation on then?  |
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CypherJF I gargle nitroglycerin

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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To L. Chance's question, yes, sysop/smod/mod validations were on. (I believe, 99.9%) |
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SuSE Me measures good

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 1:06 am Post subject: |
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you believe?
make sure |
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CypherJF I gargle nitroglycerin

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 1:08 am Post subject: |
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Ask L. chance (Left an IM for him to post .. ) |
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L. Chance Newbie
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 4:42 am Post subject: |
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Yes, all validations were enabled. The tests that ALTEC . and I performed on one of our zones revealed the following:
sysop.txt devoid of all names = anyone who logged in using the sysop password could *recycle the zone.
one name added to sysop.txt = only that one person could use *recycle.
We did not test to see what commands were available during test condition one above and which commands were not. However, if memory serves, *log was also available when no names were in the sysop.txt. |
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SuSE Me measures good

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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anybody wanna confirm this? |
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L. Chance Newbie
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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LMAO! Do you need 50 people to tell you something is so to make it so? |
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Cyan~Fire I'll count you!

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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 12:36 am Post subject: |
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2 < 50
Anyway, confirmed. _________________ This help is informational only. No representation is made or warranty given as to its content. User assumes all risk of use. Cyan~Fire assumes no responsibility for any loss or delay resulting from such use.
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SuSE Me measures good

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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 6:52 am Post subject: |
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Like Cyan said, I was just looking for a second confirmation. You are one person afaik, L. Chance.
I'm guessing this a non-issue in ASSS? So there's probably no point in bothering PriitK to hack up subgame some more over it. |
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Cyan~Fire I'll count you!

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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 10:17 am Post subject: |
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Actually, the more I think of this, the more I think of it as a feature.
What if you had no access to the server directory other than *putfile, and you accidentally uploaded a blank sysop.txt. Then your host would have to fix it. |
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CypherJF I gargle nitroglycerin

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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:04 am Post subject: |
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I doubt Priit would try to do anything about it anyways.. |
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SuSE Me measures good

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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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Cyan~Fire wrote: | Actually, the more I think of this, the more I think of it as a feature.
What if you had no access to the server directory other than *putfile, and you accidentally uploaded a blank sysop.txt. Then your host would have to fix it. |
I guess that depends. Can a sysop do anything, or just *recycle? ...because *recycle alone doesn't do much  |
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Cyan~Fire I'll count you!

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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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Huuuuuuuuh? |
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SuSE Me measures good

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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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Cyan~Fire wrote: | "Cyan~Fire"]Actually, the more I think of this, the more I think of it as a feature.
What if you had no access to the server directory other than *putfile, and you accidentally uploaded a blank sysop.txt. Then your host would have to fix it. |
I guess that depends. Can a sysop do anything, or just *recycle? ...because *recycle alone doesn't do much [/quote]
Cyan~Fire wrote: | Huuuuuuuuh? |
...what? If you can do nothing but *recycle, I don't see how it could possibly be a feature, as it'd be a useless one (recycling isn't going to get you on sysop.txt).
If you can do more than *recycle, then maybe you're right. |
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Cyan~Fire I'll count you!

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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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I'm saying that if you are the owner/a sysop in a zone, you have no access to the server other than *putfile, and you upload a blank sysop.txt, you're screwed. I don't see what *recycle has to do with it... |
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