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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2004 10:32 am    Post subject: Mac Reply to topic Reply with quote

Ive been searching for a long time now.. but havn't found a ss client for machintosh.
yes it is possible to play through virtual pc, but it's awful.

will there be ss for mac in a short future??

please answer if you know anything.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2004 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Probably not.
PriitK is too busy to recode it, and he doesn't want to give the source away.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:38 am    Post subject: SS Mac Client Reply to topic Reply with quote

There is no Client for Mac at the moment.

But I'm at work. My client will run under MacOS X, not Classic, is written with SDL so it will run on Windows and Linux too.
But I only test on my Powerbook and my Windows machine. I don't like Window Based Linux.

But I need help: Does anybody exept PriitK know, how the Continuum Checksums works? If not, I cannot login as a Continuum Client and lots of Zones only accept Ctm.

And I need some testers for Windows, Mac and Linux in one or two month.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:00 am    Post subject: Re: SS Mac Client Reply to topic Reply with quote

McZonk wrote:
But I need help: Does anybody exept PriitK know, how the Continuum Checksums works? If not, I cannot login as a Continuum Client and lots of Zones only accept Ctm.


No, thats the idea. If no one knows it, no one can use a client to cheat.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 1:33 pm    Post subject: Re: SS Mac Client Reply to topic Reply with quote

McZonk wrote:
There is no Client for Mac at the moment.

But I'm at work. My client will run under MacOS X, not Classic, is written with SDL so it will run on Windows and Linux too.
But I only test on my Powerbook and my Windows machine. I don't like Window Based Linux.

But I need help: Does anybody exept PriitK know, how the Continuum Checksums works? If not, I cannot login as a Continuum Client and lots of Zones only accept Ctm.

And I need some testers for Windows, Mac and Linux in one or two month.

I'd be glad to test that on linux. icon_smile.gif
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I believe most people who are common to this forum would be willing to help check it out. I only have windows sooo yup....

Priit will not release the continuum encryption.. sorry bud.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

CypherJF wrote:
Priit will not release the continuum encryption.. sorry bud.


not necessarily... if the project looks good, he'll hand it over. I believe this was the case with ASSS.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

AFAIK, Priit didn't just 'hand it over', he gave stuff to MGB (security.dll) and that's probably all he's going to give it to.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I have no idea what the Continuum checksum is, as the real one is only done via SSC's billing server and Continuum. The exe, map, etc checksums are all VIE's. The encryption is special for Continuum only, which is what I believe you are asking about. Thats going to be a no also.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

no as in never, or no as in no dll...

was i wrong in saying that Priit provided it to Gremlinar for ASSS? which module was that???
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

AFAIK, the encryption module for ASSS will not be made public. Not sure what this means. Maybe it will be distributed as a pre-built binary. Shrug.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

*glances at ekted* didn't we have this discussion tonight? LOL... weird!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

isn't it easy to emulate windows on Linux?

why not run Linux on your mac, then emulate windows?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Mostly because Continuum doesn't run emulated on Linux.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Ekted wrote:
AFAIK, the encryption module for ASSS will not be made public. [...] Maybe it will be distributed as a pre-built binary.

It already is, security.dll.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I've rebuild the Continuum En-De-Cryption, but, if the server wants the Checksum, (Exe, Level, Weaponstatus) it fails.
So if I can get a precompiled module, it would be enough, where can i get this?
If there is such a discussion about cheating if someone has the Encryption and Checksum, do you think it would be better not to publish my source code. I wasn't sure if I should give it away. I hope I will finish my Website, for the Client so, anybody can test it soon.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

It seems to be the thing w/ Continuum - is if you have any "security" portions, to write those in a dll or whatnot, and then you're still able to give a working source, the users just won't be able to know the security portion of it o.O... maybe I'm wwrrooonggo on that but yeah.. i think thats how ASSS does it..
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

CypherJF wrote:
maybe I'm wwrrooonggo on that but yeah.. i think thats how ASSS does it..


Yup, you're wrong. Whats the point of encryption if you can modify everything else anyway?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 7:19 pm    Post subject: McZonk is this the checksum u needed Reply to topic Reply with quote

Here is this waht u needed?

Uint32 generateEXEChecksum(Uint32 key)
{
Uint32 part, csum = 0;

part = 0xc98ed41f;
part += 0x3e1bc | key;
part ^= 0x42435942 ^ key;
part += 0x1d895300 | key;
part ^= 0x6b5c4032 ^ key;
part += 0x467e44 | key;
part ^= 0x516c7eda ^ key;
part += 0x8b0c708b | key;
part ^= 0x6b3e3429 ^ key;
part += 0x560674c9 | key;
part ^= 0xf4e6b721 ^ key;
part += 0xe90cc483 | key;
part ^= 0x80ece15a ^ key;
part += 0x728bce33 | key;
part ^= 0x1fc5d1e6 ^ key;
part += 0x8b0c518b | key;
part ^= 0x24f1a96e ^ key;
part += 0x30ae0c1 | key;
part ^= 0x8858741b ^ key;
csum += part;

part = 0x9c15857d;
part += 0x424448b | key;
part ^= 0xcd0455ee ^ key;
part += 0x727 | key;
part ^= 0x8d7f29cd ^ key;
csum += part;

part = 0x824b9278;
part += 0x6590 | key;
part ^= 0x8e16169a ^ key;
part += 0x8b524914 | key;
part ^= 0x82dce03a ^ key;
part += 0xfa83d733 | key;
part ^= 0xb0955349 ^ key;
part += 0xe8000003 | key;
part ^= 0x7cfe3604 ^ key;
csum += part;

part = 0xe3f8d2af;
part += 0x2de85024 | key;
part ^= 0xbed0296b ^ key;
part += 0x587501f8 | key;
part ^= 0xada70f65 ^ key;
csum += part;

part = 0xcb54d8a0;
part += 0xf000001 | key;
part ^= 0x330f19ff ^ key;
part += 0x909090c3 | key;
part ^= 0xd20f9f9f ^ key;
part += 0x53004add | key;
part ^= 0x5d81256b ^ key;
part += 0x8b004b65 | key;
part ^= 0xa5312749 ^ key;
part += 0xb8004b67 | key;
part ^= 0x8adf8fb1 ^ key;
part += 0x8901e283 | key;
part ^= 0x8ec94507 ^ key;
part += 0x89d23300 | key;
part ^= 0x1ff8e1dc ^ key;
part += 0x108a004a | key;
part ^= 0xc73d6304 ^ key;
part += 0x43d2d3 | key;
part ^= 0x6f78e4ff ^ key;
csum += part;

part = 0x45c23f9;
part += 0x47d86097 | key;
part ^= 0x7cb588bd ^ key;
part += 0x9286 | key;
part ^= 0x21d700f8 ^ key;
part += 0xdf8e0fd9 | key;
part ^= 0x42796c9e ^ key;
part += 0x8b000003 | key;
part ^= 0x3ad32a21 ^ key;
csum += part;

part = 0xb229a3d0;
part += 0x47d708 | key;
part ^= 0x10b0a91 ^ key;
csum += part;

part = 0x466e55a7;
part += 0xc7880d8b | key;
part ^= 0x44ce7067 ^ key;
part += 0xe4 | key;
part ^= 0x923a6d44 ^ key;
part += 0x640047d6 | key;
part ^= 0xa62d606c ^ key;
part += 0x2bd1f7ae | key;
part ^= 0x2f5621fb ^ key;
part += 0x8b0f74ff | key;
part ^= 0x2928b332;
csum += part;

part = 0x62cf369a;
csum += part;

return csum;
}
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Nope. He wanted the continuum encryption, not the VIE encryption.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

here is this other one i used with mp5sum.exe and it gave me e792645e208af2ea77f5e285118f748d

Or maybe u have this or the other one and ur question was how it works icon_smile.gif
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

re: McZonk

If you need Mac-testers, feel free to include me. And the Continuum checksum bit I think is included with ASSS, but as a precompiled binary. Says in the readme that not all the source is available, and I would assume the checksum validation is part of it.

I understand your frustration. icon_smile.gif

It would, quite literally, take one afternoon to have Continuum running under OS X, but anti-Macintosh (anti-Unix?) sentiments are really high in the SS community.

Btw, are you Snrrrub? If not, there's a Linux client called Snrrrub. You might want to consult with the author of it.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

AFAIK the ban techniques currently in use are dependant on the client disclosing windows specific information. So not only would ctm need modifying, the biller (and most likely the server) will too.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Smong wrote:
AFAIK the ban techniques currently in use are dependant on the client disclosing windows specific information. So not only would ctm need modifying, the biller (and most likely the server) will too.

Yeah, that's true.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

AFAIK, Nope. According to TestTube, despite what people hear, its not the volume ID of drive C, its the ID of the NIC. Or it could just be patched on a Linux/Unix/Mac port to use the NICs id instead of the VolumeID. Ive never tested it myself so dont take it to the bank.
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