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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2004 10:32 am Post subject: Mac |
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Ive been searching for a long time now.. but havn't found a ss client for machintosh.
yes it is possible to play through virtual pc, but it's awful.
will there be ss for mac in a short future??
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Cyan~Fire I'll count you!

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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2004 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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Probably not.
PriitK is too busy to recode it, and he doesn't want to give the source away. _________________ This help is informational only. No representation is made or warranty given as to its content. User assumes all risk of use. Cyan~Fire assumes no responsibility for any loss or delay resulting from such use.
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McZonk Newbie
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:38 am Post subject: SS Mac Client |
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There is no Client for Mac at the moment.
But I'm at work. My client will run under MacOS X, not Classic, is written with SDL so it will run on Windows and Linux too.
But I only test on my Powerbook and my Windows machine. I don't like Window Based Linux.
But I need help: Does anybody exept PriitK know, how the Continuum Checksums works? If not, I cannot login as a Continuum Client and lots of Zones only accept Ctm.
And I need some testers for Windows, Mac and Linux in one or two month. |
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Dr Brain Flip-flopping like a wind surfer

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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:00 am Post subject: Re: SS Mac Client |
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McZonk wrote: | But I need help: Does anybody exept PriitK know, how the Continuum Checksums works? If not, I cannot login as a Continuum Client and lots of Zones only accept Ctm. |
No, thats the idea. If no one knows it, no one can use a client to cheat. _________________ Hyperspace Owner
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liito-orava Novice

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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 1:33 pm Post subject: Re: SS Mac Client |
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McZonk wrote: | There is no Client for Mac at the moment.
But I'm at work. My client will run under MacOS X, not Classic, is written with SDL so it will run on Windows and Linux too.
But I only test on my Powerbook and my Windows machine. I don't like Window Based Linux.
But I need help: Does anybody exept PriitK know, how the Continuum Checksums works? If not, I cannot login as a Continuum Client and lots of Zones only accept Ctm.
And I need some testers for Windows, Mac and Linux in one or two month. |
I'd be glad to test that on linux.  _________________ "Do you hear that? That is the sound of nobody giving a fuck!"
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CypherJF I gargle nitroglycerin

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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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I believe most people who are common to this forum would be willing to help check it out. I only have windows sooo yup....
Priit will not release the continuum encryption.. sorry bud. _________________ Performance is often the art of cheating carefully. - James Gosling |
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Helicon Server Help Squatter
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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CypherJF wrote: | Priit will not release the continuum encryption.. sorry bud. |
not necessarily... if the project looks good, he'll hand it over. I believe this was the case with ASSS. _________________ Signatures just seem so quaint. |
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Cyan~Fire I'll count you!

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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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AFAIK, Priit didn't just 'hand it over', he gave stuff to MGB (security.dll) and that's probably all he's going to give it to. |
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Mine GO BOOM Hunch Hunch What What

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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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I have no idea what the Continuum checksum is, as the real one is only done via SSC's billing server and Continuum. The exe, map, etc checksums are all VIE's. The encryption is special for Continuum only, which is what I believe you are asking about. Thats going to be a no also. |
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Helicon Server Help Squatter
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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no as in never, or no as in no dll...
was i wrong in saying that Priit provided it to Gremlinar for ASSS? which module was that??? |
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Mr Ekted Movie Geek

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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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AFAIK, the encryption module for ASSS will not be made public. Not sure what this means. Maybe it will be distributed as a pre-built binary. Shrug. _________________ 4,691 irradiated haggis! |
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CypherJF I gargle nitroglycerin

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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:28 am Post subject: |
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*glances at ekted* didn't we have this discussion tonight? LOL... weird! |
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SuSE Me measures good

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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 3:09 am Post subject: |
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isn't it easy to emulate windows on Linux?
why not run Linux on your mac, then emulate windows? |
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Dr Brain Flip-flopping like a wind surfer

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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Mostly because Continuum doesn't run emulated on Linux. |
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Cyan~Fire I'll count you!

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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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Ekted wrote: | AFAIK, the encryption module for ASSS will not be made public. [...] Maybe it will be distributed as a pre-built binary. |
It already is, security.dll. |
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McZonk Newbie
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 7:21 am Post subject: |
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I've rebuild the Continuum En-De-Cryption, but, if the server wants the Checksum, (Exe, Level, Weaponstatus) it fails.
So if I can get a precompiled module, it would be enough, where can i get this?
If there is such a discussion about cheating if someone has the Encryption and Checksum, do you think it would be better not to publish my source code. I wasn't sure if I should give it away. I hope I will finish my Website, for the Client so, anybody can test it soon. |
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CypherJF I gargle nitroglycerin

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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 10:38 am Post subject: |
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It seems to be the thing w/ Continuum - is if you have any "security" portions, to write those in a dll or whatnot, and then you're still able to give a working source, the users just won't be able to know the security portion of it o.O... maybe I'm wwrrooonggo on that but yeah.. i think thats how ASSS does it.. |
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Dr Brain Flip-flopping like a wind surfer

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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 10:46 am Post subject: |
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CypherJF wrote: | maybe I'm wwrrooonggo on that but yeah.. i think thats how ASSS does it.. |
Yup, you're wrong. Whats the point of encryption if you can modify everything else anyway? |
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 7:19 pm Post subject: McZonk is this the checksum u needed |
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Here is this waht u needed?
Uint32 generateEXEChecksum(Uint32 key)
{
Uint32 part, csum = 0;
part = 0xc98ed41f;
part += 0x3e1bc | key;
part ^= 0x42435942 ^ key;
part += 0x1d895300 | key;
part ^= 0x6b5c4032 ^ key;
part += 0x467e44 | key;
part ^= 0x516c7eda ^ key;
part += 0x8b0c708b | key;
part ^= 0x6b3e3429 ^ key;
part += 0x560674c9 | key;
part ^= 0xf4e6b721 ^ key;
part += 0xe90cc483 | key;
part ^= 0x80ece15a ^ key;
part += 0x728bce33 | key;
part ^= 0x1fc5d1e6 ^ key;
part += 0x8b0c518b | key;
part ^= 0x24f1a96e ^ key;
part += 0x30ae0c1 | key;
part ^= 0x8858741b ^ key;
csum += part;
part = 0x9c15857d;
part += 0x424448b | key;
part ^= 0xcd0455ee ^ key;
part += 0x727 | key;
part ^= 0x8d7f29cd ^ key;
csum += part;
part = 0x824b9278;
part += 0x6590 | key;
part ^= 0x8e16169a ^ key;
part += 0x8b524914 | key;
part ^= 0x82dce03a ^ key;
part += 0xfa83d733 | key;
part ^= 0xb0955349 ^ key;
part += 0xe8000003 | key;
part ^= 0x7cfe3604 ^ key;
csum += part;
part = 0xe3f8d2af;
part += 0x2de85024 | key;
part ^= 0xbed0296b ^ key;
part += 0x587501f8 | key;
part ^= 0xada70f65 ^ key;
csum += part;
part = 0xcb54d8a0;
part += 0xf000001 | key;
part ^= 0x330f19ff ^ key;
part += 0x909090c3 | key;
part ^= 0xd20f9f9f ^ key;
part += 0x53004add | key;
part ^= 0x5d81256b ^ key;
part += 0x8b004b65 | key;
part ^= 0xa5312749 ^ key;
part += 0xb8004b67 | key;
part ^= 0x8adf8fb1 ^ key;
part += 0x8901e283 | key;
part ^= 0x8ec94507 ^ key;
part += 0x89d23300 | key;
part ^= 0x1ff8e1dc ^ key;
part += 0x108a004a | key;
part ^= 0xc73d6304 ^ key;
part += 0x43d2d3 | key;
part ^= 0x6f78e4ff ^ key;
csum += part;
part = 0x45c23f9;
part += 0x47d86097 | key;
part ^= 0x7cb588bd ^ key;
part += 0x9286 | key;
part ^= 0x21d700f8 ^ key;
part += 0xdf8e0fd9 | key;
part ^= 0x42796c9e ^ key;
part += 0x8b000003 | key;
part ^= 0x3ad32a21 ^ key;
csum += part;
part = 0xb229a3d0;
part += 0x47d708 | key;
part ^= 0x10b0a91 ^ key;
csum += part;
part = 0x466e55a7;
part += 0xc7880d8b | key;
part ^= 0x44ce7067 ^ key;
part += 0xe4 | key;
part ^= 0x923a6d44 ^ key;
part += 0x640047d6 | key;
part ^= 0xa62d606c ^ key;
part += 0x2bd1f7ae | key;
part ^= 0x2f5621fb ^ key;
part += 0x8b0f74ff | key;
part ^= 0x2928b332;
csum += part;
part = 0x62cf369a;
csum += part;
return csum;
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Dr Brain Flip-flopping like a wind surfer

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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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Nope. He wanted the continuum encryption, not the VIE encryption. |
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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here is this other one i used with mp5sum.exe and it gave me e792645e208af2ea77f5e285118f748d
Or maybe u have this or the other one and ur question was how it works  |
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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re: McZonk
If you need Mac-testers, feel free to include me. And the Continuum checksum bit I think is included with ASSS, but as a precompiled binary. Says in the readme that not all the source is available, and I would assume the checksum validation is part of it.
I understand your frustration.
It would, quite literally, take one afternoon to have Continuum running under OS X, but anti-Macintosh (anti-Unix?) sentiments are really high in the SS community.
Btw, are you Snrrrub? If not, there's a Linux client called Snrrrub. You might want to consult with the author of it.
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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 8:34 am Post subject: |
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AFAIK the ban techniques currently in use are dependant on the client disclosing windows specific information. So not only would ctm need modifying, the biller (and most likely the server) will too. |
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liito-orava Novice

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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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Smong wrote: | AFAIK the ban techniques currently in use are dependant on the client disclosing windows specific information. So not only would ctm need modifying, the biller (and most likely the server) will too. |
Yeah, that's true. |
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AFAIK, Nope. According to TestTube, despite what people hear, its not the volume ID of drive C, its the ID of the NIC. Or it could just be patched on a Linux/Unix/Mac port to use the NICs id instead of the VolumeID. Ive never tested it myself so dont take it to the bank. _________________ There are no stupid question, but there are many inquisitive idiots.
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