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| Well, Dr Brain, how can I prefer something I have never tried? And I don't have much motivation to try it because C is as capable as Java and I got a 1,040 page book on C++, as well. |
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| Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:08 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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C++ = best for multi-functional-high-design codework.
ASM = best for debug/hack/show-off |
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Dr Brain
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| Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 5:08 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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| Donkano wrote: | | Well, Dr Brain, how can I prefer something I have never tried? And I don't have much motivation to try it because C is as capable as Java and I got a 1,040 page book on C++, as well. |
You can't. But you also can't prefer something you have tried over something you haven't.
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| Dr Brain wrote: | | C can do everything C++ can, and assembly can do everything C can, so just use assembly. |
Really? ...and what if you want that assembly to run on another architecture?  |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:57 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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| Well, good God, what if you want to run that C++ on another machine? |
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Let's just all goto LISP.. dangit.
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I refuse to use anything named after the way stereotypical homosexuals talk.
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| LOL brainfuck then? |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:12 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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| Brain wrote: | | Well, good God, what if you want to run that C++ on another machine? |
I do believe he's talking about the source code. C++ source can be fully platform independent.
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Dr Brain
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I don't believe he knows what he's talking about. I was making a point, and he wants to get technical.
C/C++ cannot be used on one platform and moved without, at the very least, recomplilation. The same is true of assembly.
You can't even move from one OS to another without recompiling, much less one architecture to another. |
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| Donkano wrote: | | Well, Dr Brain, how can I prefer something I have never tried? And I don't have much motivation to try it because C is as capable as Java and I got a 1,040 page book on C++, as well. |
The whole "as capable" argument is an excuse for stupidity. If you don't find learning new programming languages to be interesting, it's your loss. All programming languages are equally capable, if they're Turing complete and have interfaces to the outside world. And most are equally capable to the point that problems' optimal asymptotic runtime is the same for all languages. (Brainfuck is one exception, since you have no random access to memory.) Only a troglodyte would care about how capable a language is; what matters is how powerful. Powerful programming languages let the programmer do more work, more accurately, in less time. C is not a powerful programming language, unless you're writing code that really wants to be fast. (Or if your operating system uses C...) C++ is a bit more powerful, since it allows more abstractions, but it uses a weird kludge in place of closures.
Cerium, if you're going to give an idiotic reason like that, it's not a problem, because you can learn Scheme instead.  |
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| Twas a joke, my friend. Nothing more. |
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