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Blindmonkey21
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| God damn dude, stop the bitching.
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Mine GO BOOM
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| Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:57 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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A problem is that Gravitron sees everything that isn't positive in his eyes as the following. Originally, it was amusing because he did it rarely and in good taste. Over time, he got worse, and over did it. I'm sure this will bring out a responce from Gravitron, so I'll let him explain.
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Blindmonkey21
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| Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:44 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Hehe I remember that topic I took Brain's pic of the "free cat" and I made it one of my favorites  Nice pic brain!!!
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Dr Brain
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| Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:07 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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It's not mine. I wish I could take credit for it, but I can't.
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Smong> so long as 99% deaths feel lame it will always be hyperspace to me
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Gravitron
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:01 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Nice image MGB, where did you get it off from, Harve Caen's site?
^ Yes MGB, you would know about this kind of treatment to your employes, wouldn't you?
Nothing like the nurturing environment whereas you are encouraged to get stabbed in your back by those you refered to as friends.
You guessed correctly, and indeed I shall.
Here be my reply:
I don't recall if this post was made purely by my own initiative or because MGB had requested me to monitor the place more closely and actively.
The situation on the forums was that they were begining to deteriorate in content (spam, threads in the wrong forums, psuedo-trash talk outside of the designated forum, excessive bashings, eruptions, etc.).
And the staff was "Missing In Action", as always and so, I made this tongue in cheek, sour-sweet, bastard beat (excuse me, I'm watching a rerun of that anti-trance episode in Samurai Jack) of a post.
Whack!
Without a warning, nor even as much as a single word, MGB tosses me down from all the floors & stairs.
| Mine Go Boom wrote: | | I try to run this without the staff being visible, so it seems as if they don't actually do anything, which I hope they never have to. |
Without the staff being visible, said he? (actually they really did not do anything, mostly they're inactive, which is why MGB kept rehiring so many staff members over time)
Several months later, it got a bit worse and spams grew intensive and MGB forms up a prison camp out of the BBS, he of course stars as the head chief warden.
He starts to slam temporary bans here, perm-bans there and insultive user-titles everywhere.
Did he fairly warned anyone, did he made a post to inform people that there's a troubling increase in acitivty of the disturbance nature, did he tell the public that it reached a point where punishment has begun?
No, he did not.
Instead, he made an announcement detailing "offenders", what each did and what did they get in return.
Staff acting without presence, in stealth,...is the pot calling the cattle black?
I've been in server help for many years, prior to being staff.
I did not ask to be staff, I was asked to join staff, upon accepting, I took the job seriously.
I have never abused power, and I rarely used power.
When I did use power, I mostly either split topics and/or moved them to the appropriate forum.
The only person I have ever used power on directly, personally, was me - I banned myself as an act of protest, the first person to be banned on this BBS.
However, unlike MGB's proclaim and assurances of the peacefulness of these message boards (that no one is getting banned and that I was the only one who was ever banned, something which shortly after he turned around himself by banning people), I was not the last.
When I was given the duty, I was given respect.
And I returned to the position with the same respect by respectivly acting responsibly.
During my service of server help, my integrity there has been impeccable.
After a while, as MGB begun experimenting in another project (which was abandoned, and now the wiki somewhat fulfills its place), he finaly made the decision to switch to phpBB.
Again, I acted in strained behaviour and made sure to keep in line and maintain dignified conduct.
Then MGB threw me out, said I violated his inner rules.
I tried to reason, and find out what I did wrong, explain myself.
I'm on probation, said he, and if I "clean up" I can get back.
I attempted to keep business as ussual, but apparently, he decided that while he can dictate certain behaviour to me, it's A-Okay if he kept acting like I been accused of.
Perhaps he thought he's god and that I must be tested of my "faith" and "conviction" before I'll be allowed back to his "loving bossum(sp?)".
Well, I failed that test.
He kept teasing me, dissing me, laughing with others as they mocked me, almost encouraging them to verbaly molest me.
See, his idea of backing-up his "friend"s was to help them being back-stabbed by other people.
He wouldn't let me to continue as ussual, maybe he didn't really want me to get back either.
Betray me once, shame on you.
Trison me twice, burn in hell before (my) remittal.
And so, my last news post in server help main page came : With friends like him, who needs enemies?
This is my account of events of past.
Funny how Gravitron was right, as ussual.
But for his saying he's always laughed at, outcasted.
And when the awakening comes, and his word proves true, another takes the credits and act as he would.
P.S.
Congratulations to you, dear old friend, you have succeeded where all else've failed, you have managed to reach to me, to hurt me, you have altered that Gravitron and brought upon his discontinuance.
All that remains, is one last frozen tear of anger.
To pay the price, can't forgive, can't forget, all emotions fade, I turned to stone.
Pat yourself on the shoulder, for you've triumphed like a cancerus mutation in corrupting the pure and righteous transforming them onto the beast.
P.P.S.
Response is spelled with "s" not "c".
I suppose it is fitting, since you bring your template.sss with the use of the letter "K"cabbatS.
Hello, Ashley. Hug? 
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Dr Brain
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:52 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Too long to read all the way through.
What I did read was B.S.
P.S. If you die now, everyone will only remember the good times.
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Mine GO BOOM
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:49 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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| Gravitron wrote: | | Harve Caen's site? |
Where I normally get most of my images, from Something Awful's forums. Other images, I usually save from random websites that might be useful later.
| Gravitron wrote: | | The situation on the forums was that they were begining to deteriorate in content (spam, threads in the wrong forums, psuedo-trash talk outside of the designated forum, excessive bashings, eruptions, etc.). And the staff was "Missing In Action", as always and so, I made this tongue in cheek, sour-sweet, bastard beat (excuse me, I'm watching a rerun of that anti-trance episode in Samurai Jack) of a post. |
You are correct. At the time of your posting, it was a very aggressive move. Re-read your original global announcement. From a user's point of view, it is written in a harsh demeanor. My first responsibility to protect the user's freedoms was to prevent you from acting out, not directly as a punishment. Even if your intent was good, your appearance was negative.
Samurai Jack is a good show. Have every episode downloaded, and have shared it many times with friends and strangers via Bit Torrent. If you'd like, I could throw it up for others, though it is 11 gig total and will take a while.
| Gravitron wrote: | | Without the staff being visible, said he? (actually they really did not do anything, mostly they're inactive, which is why MGB kept rehiring so many staff members over time) |
Staff never had to be very active. Originally, they were people who visited the forums often and knew what they were doing. Their names appeared red so people would know that their sources of information could be trusted. Later, staff was to help with posting news, adding more answers to the FAQ, and replying to Server Help email questions.
You were the only member to actually visit often and help with other points of interest, such as the old Help Desk testing and these forums. Even as one of the messages you've posted in the Staff pages went along the lines of what happened to the staff. My response was that the forums were running themselves very well.
| Gravitron wrote: | Several months later, it got a bit worse and spams grew intensive and MGB forms up a prison camp out of the BBS, he of course stars as the head chief warden. He starts to slam temporary bans here, perm-bans there and insultive user-titles everywhere. Did he fairly warned anyone, did he made a post to inform people that there's a troubling increase in acitivty of the disturbance nature, did he tell the public that it reached a point where punishment has begun?
No, he did not. |
There have only been one temporary ban, with warnings given in the offending thread. Smithy afterwards even acknowledged that he knew he did wrong. Since then, he has matured pretty well and is participating more in discussions now than before. The only permanent ban is on an open proxy because that IP was making many offending threads randomly throughout the forums.
As for the user titles? The general consensus of the users here are that they are amusing, and some people actually enjoy the unusual titles that they currently have. For the times in which people disliked them, I've removed them upon request.
| Gravitron wrote: | Instead, he made an announcement detailing "offenders", what each did and what did they get in return.
Staff acting without presence, in stealth,...is the pot calling the cattle black? |
That would be thanks to yourself. You showed me that trying to remain invisible only works against yourself. For these forums to remain as free to the users as possible, all inner workings need to be public knowledge. I felt that this is a very open way in which others can understand actions that I do. If you'd like, I can act more like other forums in which people and posts magically disappear.
| Gravitron wrote: | | I've been in server help for many years, prior to being staff. I did not ask to be staff, I was asked to join staff, upon accepting, I took the job seriously. I have never abused power, and I rarely used power. When I did use power, I mostly either split topics and/or moved them to the appropriate forum. |
I am appreciative of what you did. I made a wise choice in hiring you. Until the above event occurred, I could say no wrong about you. I did this also for another person, Catid. I too had to defend my decision of both you and him being visible as staff members on my site to my peers. Most of it was directed at Catid, but I got a bit of flack for even having you on my staff, as others thought you were a bit out spoken towards the community. I defended you then, and I'll still defend you now.
| Gravitron wrote: | | He kept teasing me, dissing me, laughing with others as they mocked me, almost encouraging them to verbaly molest me. See, his idea of backing-up his "friend"s was to help them being back-stabbed by other people. He wouldn't let me to continue as ussual, maybe he didn't really want me to get back either. |
To be honest, I'd still bring you back if you didn't act as a threat to others. I understand why you dislike me, but I don't understand why you directly attack other users here on the forums. Even in the recent event with Pest you jumped right on people, though you still show the original side in which I knew you when you corrected yourself.
| Gravitron wrote: | | Congratulations to you, dear old friend, you have succeeded where all else've failed, you have managed to reach to me, to hurt me, you have altered that Gravitron and brought upon his discontinuance. |
If the event occurred again, would I react differently? Yes. I can see from different points of view, and understand why you feel the way you do. I can see why you felt that I acted very harshly towards you without warning. A better way would have just to been to only have removed the global announcement part, and discuss it with you in privately as to why I felt it was wrong. But it didn't happen that way, so I'll learn from past mistakes.
| Gravitron wrote: | | I suppose it is fitting, since you bring your template.sss with the use of the letter "K"cabbatS. |
The history of that K was because Sesame Street was on behind me as I was going through it, updating things. For that day, K was the special letter, so I threw it in there.
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lp_street_soldier
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:55 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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| Most of that was just childish.
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Pests
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 2:42 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Even in the recent event with Pest you jumped right on people, though you still show the original side in which I knew you when you corrected yourself.
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Talking about the discussion we had in the other topic? Did something else happen that I didn't know about? Why is my name linked to the admin edit?
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Mine GO BOOM
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:21 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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| Pests wrote: | | Talking about the discussion we had in the other topic? Did something else happen that I didn't know about? Why is my name linked to the admin edit? |
Sorry, grabbed wrong link. I wanted to get the post url instead, corrected now.
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