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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:17 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I'd like to know why "telnet access" is a security hole.
And why do you people care for the reason of requesting telnet access? If someone wants it, why isn't he free to ask for it?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:54 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Solo Ace wrote:
I'd like to know why "telnet access" is a security hole.
And why do you people care for the reason of requesting telnet access? If someone wants it, why isn't he free to ask for it?

It is a security hole just as bad as an open wireless point is. Everything sent over it is send in cleartext.

As for the reason why people ask, it is mostly so the person giving it out knows that the user will understand what he can and cannot do with the terminal. If the person responds back "to use VI to make small changes to websites quickly", you'll get the feeling that they know what they are doing. If the person responds back "to admin stuff and things" it is most likely their first command they'll type is 'dir', which I like to set as a shell script which list every file in their home directory with the text Removing... in front.

Granting shell access is no more of a security risk than FTP or PHP. It is just more likely they'll attempt to run applications on the server that they shouldn't be, because it is much easier to run something like ASSS via a terminal than through a PHP command, which is possible but an ugly hack. Just never grant telnet, always force SSH onto the users.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:52 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

SyrusMX wrote:
unzip it locally then upload the directory via ftp.

Obviously that's an option too, but requires more bandwidth. Come on, don't tell me you didn't think of that. I'm just stating a reason why someone might want telnet (although, as MGB says, SSH is better).
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:25 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Phong, I would much rather accept hosting from quan chi, as he will be too busy making a malicious veebee app to steal any and all passwords sitting in my files.

Enjoy your netban(s), tool.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:31 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

So yeah MGB, FTP/HTTP/IRC are all security holes too.

I see more sense in the matter of what would be sent over those lines as a security hole than the protocol itself.

I wouldn't use telnet for remote administration, I just think a telnet (or telnet-like) connection is fine for what it can do.
Of course I agree, though, if security comes in sight, press the red button.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:32 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I was reading on what telnet is and from the site I found it was basicaly saying it was a server program that allows people to connect to it and use it as if they where sitting right in front of the server.. secruity hole would be the fact that it will allow a user to run any program they upload to the server like a virus for example. But perhaps the site I found for it was for a different program.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:50 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Why dont you get a subdomain, like on sscentral.com ?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:04 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Cerium wrote:
Phong, I would much rather accept hosting from quan chi, as he will be too busy making a malicious veebee app to steal any and all passwords sitting in my files.

Enjoy your netban(s), tool.


I do enjoy them, question is can you find what alias I am under in league?

tool. its fine, learn 2 netban
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:40 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Am i missing something? Or did all this hostility come from nowhere?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:26 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

yea default is a very hostile person icon_smile.gif
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:11 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

i was talking about cerium...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:54 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

phong give me time I'm sure I would eventually find out. I've got more patience than a panda bear
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:30 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:56 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

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Quit the game already.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:44 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Hm - Considering I have nothing in my signature that's an amazing feat you pulled something like that out of your ass Gravitron. As it stands I have NOT retired thank ya very much.

As for the here for the players and community, of course I am. Unlike you sorry to say.

GG on the trash talk, as usual, lame and irrelevant yet quite the newbish piece of shit I'd expect out of someone like you.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:00 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

lol Swift...

the custom title says it all icon_smile.gif
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:48 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

wEaViL wrote:
lol Swift...

the custom title says it all icon_smile.gif


Aye sir. icon_smile.gif
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:22 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Haha, funny for you to say.
Since it's something you wrote for yourself, back in 2003.
As well, you call moi a newbie?
Your name wasn't even on the player list untill late beta, if at all.

Keep the trash talk to yourself and ssforum, you're all doing so well there.
Yet, you're all so irrelevant in here.
Go net ban some people, mr. lamer piss in head.

There is no Gravitron.
He helped the community, he tried to change for the better, he got fed charcoal.
You didn't deserve him.
Now you get the other end.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:37 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

How did you help the community? By complaining about everything and treating new players like shit? Just leave.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:23 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Heh, you were and remained a MX, syrus.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:25 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

That was pretty lame, I expected better from you. I guess your slipping in your old age. Time to move on wouldn't you say?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:57 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

LOL, I can't believe Grav is complaining about someone saying he was leaving but staying. That's retarded.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:05 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I'm sorry for failing your trash talk expectations syrus, but as said, this is not ssforum net.
If my memory serves me correctly, I do recall you baiting me to do so on ssforum net several years back, and I do believe I've denied you there as well.

Eitherway, if you seek some stupendous trash talk, you'll get none from me.
Now return to your forums where you're happy with all the trash that's floating there.
Your blablahing is boring me.


Cyan you dummy, it was a joke.
I could care less who said what and when, it's just a cynic jab.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:37 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

SpecShip wrote:
Eitherway, if you seek some stupendous trash talk, you'll get none from me.
Now return to your forums where you're happy with all the trash that's floating there.
Your blablahing is boring me.

I have yet to see you say anything stupendous.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:58 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I'll agree Grav did help out some but the point still remains... just like under his new name hes still a ass and will always be a ass no matter what name he chooses... leaving would be doing us all a favor so you know that wont happen. Talking crap to and acting like you was more important then anyone on this board was the downfall of your staffing for MGB and 10 times out of 10 it was uncalled for, I am sure I could find some post on here that prove my point but im too lazy to bother with it.

I guess since I am a retired SS/Continuum player I should stop helping others and visiting this forum? Whatever, I know i've given alot to this board and have helped many of the newbies with there server problems.. especialy the ones that where linked to firewall and router problems and thats why I am still here today.
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