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| Cyan~Fire wrote: | | No, it was definitely a failure of the federal government, but doesn't have to do with troops. |
It's not the federal government's job to evacuate cities, it's the city's and the state's job. They failed miserably.
| Cyan~Fire wrote: | | Since the Bush Administration is so pro-business and anti-regulatory, he allows industry to pollute the earth far more than is necessary. This in turn raises the temperature of the earth (yet, global warming does occur, only Republican-financed independent scientists disclaim it), which also raises the temperature of the oceans. Naturally, this leads to more frequent and stronger hurricanes. |
Uh huh... I'm sure. It's all Bush's fault. He made that hurricane happen. Do you know how loony you sound? Because it's seriously scary that you'd believe that.
| Cyan~Fire wrote: | | And FOX NEWS, LOL. I don't trust a single word that comes out from that company. Find a legitimate news source and I may believe it. |
They're the most popular cable news provider, and hence, they came out on top when I did a google search for the story. Don't you think all the liberal news sources would have had a field day if they had made ANYTHING up? We'd still be hearing about it ten years later if they had.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:29 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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| Dr Brain wrote: | | Because it's seriously scary that you'd believe that. |
Too bad I don't. I was just joking around, then only serious part of my post was about fox news.
| Dr Brain wrote: | | Don't you think all the liberal news sources would have had a field day if they had made ANYTHING up? We'd still be hearing about it ten years later if they had. |
Yes, if they made something up that was too unbelievable or had too much counter-evidence. Not if it was just some report which might be true. Then the other news sources wouldn't want to question it because they risk looking stupid if Fox has reasonable evidence.
Edit: Try this:
| Quote: | However, a senior coalition source has told the BBC the round does not signal the discovery of weapons of mass destruction or the escalation of insurgent activity.
He said the round dated back to the Iran-Iraq war and coalition officials were not sure whether the fighters even knew what it contained. |
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The Washington Post has no love of Bush, and they've got a story on it here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33082-2004May17.html
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However, a senior coalition source has told the BBC the round does not signal the discovery of weapons of mass destruction or the escalation of insurgent activity.
He said the round dated back to the Iran-Iraq war and coalition officials were not sure whether the fighters even knew what it contained.
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WMDs are any weapons that use Atomic, Biological or Chemical means to kill people. This surely fits into the last category.
The date doesn't matter. Saddam said he didn't have any, which was a lie. They know what's in them now. And they know where they found that one. |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:47 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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[quote="Dr Brain"]The Washington Post has no love of Bush, and they've got a story on it here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33082-2004May17.html
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The date doesn't matter. Saddam said he didn't have any, which was a lie. They know what's in them now. And they know where they found that one. |
Let me know when you can proove it that Saddam had those materials, and i just might believe you. Oh, and don't get it off of news fox, theyre only number one because its on at 10:00pm instead of 11:00pm. Try CNN? or MSNBC?
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Shut up Solid, you're making a point that has already been brought up and then countered.
| Brain wrote: | | The Washington Post has no love of Bush, and they've got a story on it here |
Yeah, I already mentioned BBC, which doesn't have a love of bush either. But both the BBC and Washington Post stories go out of their way to mention that this weapon was probably not part of a stockpile.
One old weapon whose existence BBC said was probably just a mistake. Doesn't mean the Saddam had WMDs (to the extent that Bush said he did). It's like saying Hitler saved the Jews because he missed a few. |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:15 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Q: If he didn't have them, why was he a pain in the ass before the war? It's not like we didn't give him a thousand ways out.
Also, I believe that we were talking about homeless people, not WMDs. Problem with WMDs is they have no definitive answer as of yet. Give 'em ten years and that'll have changed. |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:36 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: Re: Um... |
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| Mr Ekted wrote: | | http://www.halturnershow.com/KeystrokeLoggersInAllNewComputers.html |
Is what this whole topic started off in, then it rapidly changed into diffrent subjects. |
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| Everyone agreed that it was a hoax though. |
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Saddam was a bad man.
Removing him of power was a good thing.
Fox News and BBC are notoriously biased in their broadcasts.
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| Well, I'd have to say this is the second time I'm forced to agree with Grav. |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:27 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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| SpecShip wrote: | Saddam was a bad man.
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That can be agreed upon.
Also I think the war in Iraq was mainly for the oil (they got loads of that shit), and was covered up by saying it was "Weapons of mass destruction", our troops have been there for about 2 years? And I don't see ANY kinds of dangerous weapons found. And if they havn't found any why the hell are they still there? Waiting to wipe out the rest of our toops and cause a draft?
From my view I think Bush Jr. is probably trying to finishing off his fathers mission. Well atleast there is two more years with this dude, and maybe we can get a real president soon, instead of some redneck. 
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Behind every action, there's a motive.
99% of times, the motive is one of self gain and corruption.
It is best to focus on the results, and were they benneficial to society rather than dwell on the intentions behind the acts, which will most likely only lead to frustration and anger. |
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| Agurus wrote: | | our troops have been there for about 2 years? And I don't see ANY kinds of dangerous weapons found. And if they havn't found any why the hell are they still there? Waiting to wipe out the rest of our toops and cause a draft? |
Our troops are still in Germany from WWII. |
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| Agurus wrote: | [..]
And if they havn't found any why the hell are they still there? Waiting to wipe out the rest of our toops and cause a draft?
From my view I think Bush Jr. is probably trying to finishing off his fathers mission. Well atleast there is two more years with this dude, and maybe we can get a real president soon, instead of some redneck. |
Ignorant people like you shouldn't be allowed to think about politics. We're still there because if we left now Iraq couldn't defend itself from... well... itself. There are so many warlords and just plain bad people waiting to take power that if we left it would be like the end of WWI where we set the stage for Hitler to take over. We're handing it back, yes, but it needs to be gradual for any of this war to be effective.
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| Iraq can't defend themselves yet they have over 200 battalions. Sorry but I agree with agurus, we need a new fuckin president who knows what the hell he is doing instead of invading a country and saying they have WMDs when they dont. |
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HEY GENIUS, WRAP YOUR HEAD AROUND THIS ONE!
Saddam probably had WMDs. We struggled with for months him to let inspectors in and around. We took several months before we were even committed to attacking him, then it was another couple of months before we were set up over there, and then some more time before we got to where they might have been before HE MOVED THEM BECAUSE HE HAD MONTHS TO GET RID OF THEM BEFORE WE COULD HAVE FOUND THEM.
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Wow Solid. You really are retarded.
Do you know how big a battalion is, first of all? And secondly, did you know that what you said has no factual basis and is untrue? How about you think before you say something... |
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There is a logical reason Saddam "struggled" with us before the war. It is not good to appear to be sucking up to the US in the Arab world.
Either way, if Iraq needed to be invaded, it should have been a UN effort. Naturally, your reply will be "but the UN is corrupt and inneffectual!" and so I'll say "then fix it first!". It's not like there was actually a time crunch regarding Iraq. They were definitely not about to attack us or anything. |
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| LearJett+ wrote: | Wow Solid. You really are retarded.
Do you know how big a battalion is, first of all? And secondly, did you know that what you said has no factual basis and is untrue? How about you think before you say something... |
part of a regiment; about 1000 men and made up of companies. |
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| So... where do you see that Iraq has 200 of them...? |
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| My bad, typo above. Not 200, but they are capable of fighting for themselves now. |
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Yeah, your fingers slipped and you accidentilly typed that they have 200 battallions.
Are you some sort of professional that knows that they can support themselves? No. Stop bullshitting us |
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| LearJett+ wrote: | [..]
We're still there because if we left now Iraq couldn't defend itself from... well... itself. There are so many warlords and just plain bad people waiting to take power that if we left it would be like the end of WWI where we set the stage for Hitler to take over. |
Who the hell are we to leave our troops to die in Iraq for? Let the people in Iraq to rot, our marines are not doing anything but killing and risking their lives over there. And I bet over in Iraq, this is why there is frequent explosions/suicidal attacks, because of our marines being over them, and I bet they want them out.
As well it seems you are ignorant here, the only reason how Hitler raised to power because 90% of the people just sat and watched not bother to do anything. And if you think the only solution to get rid of bad warlords is for our marines to stay there, your dead wrong, because there will always be someone bad, and it is not possible to get rid of them all.
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Saddam probably had WMDs. We struggled with for months him to let inspectors in and around. We took several months before we were even committed to attacking him, then it was another couple of months before we were set up over there, and then some more time before we got to where they might have been before HE MOVED THEM BECAUSE HE HAD MONTHS TO GET RID OF THEM BEFORE WE COULD HAVE FOUND THEM. |
He was found in a freaking hole, I seriously doubt he was able to smuggle out WMD's when our marines surrounded the entire country, no he was probably able to leave with tanks patrolling the streets everywhere  |
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| Solid_Fire wrote: | Well im not all political and stuff, but what bush is doing is completly stupid.
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Read what i said Mr.smartass. I said im not all political, meaning i dont base my life and read about politics 24/7 like you.
Are you some professional who knows whats right for every problem? Hell no, so stick up your ass.
Agurus has a point, Saddam was found in a fucking hole...alone...if he wanted to smuggle shit out then he wuold of smuggled himself out. |
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| LearJett+ wrote: | | Quote: | Why is Canada better than America?
1) Canada has a tax-payed health system where everyone is equal.
2) Canada doesn't have it's government looking down everyone's backs because they know what the people want.
3) Canada is fully democratic and they look for the best because if they screw up then it costs them the next election.
4) Peace is greater than war.
5) Welfare for poor people.
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1.) Tax-payed healthcare is low quality and shitty compared to privatised. I've spoken to many Canadians who couldn't get a doctors appointment for weeks
2.) This phrase doesn't even make sense to me
3.) America looks for the best too... people have been cost the election before...
4.) Peace is greater than war when you're a bunch of pussies who can't fight
5.) America has welfare too, idiot
6.) No one cares enough to attack Canada, and the USA protects their citizens too
Quit bullshitting yourself, Donkano. At least know what you're talking about before you say something stupid. |
1. It is lower quality I will give you that (I personally havn't had a huge delay for things though).
2. The whole subject here about Bush spying on all the American citizens without a warrant.
3. Obviously not, why else does everyone in the world label USA as a war-country? War isn't the answer to ANYTHING.
4. It is obvious that you have no conscience to guide you to better descision making.
5. Their welfare is for food only, nothing else. Canada's is cash that you can spend on whatever you want.
6. USA can't protect squat, how else do you think 9/11 happened? Why do you think the pentagon was attacked? Why do you think the majority of Americans are scared?
Also, why are you persistant in flaming people? |
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