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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 8:51 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: I noticed.. Reply to topic Reply with quote

I noticed that a ton of people make misc. Continuum related programs in java.. Whats up with that?

Is java like the easyiest software development language to make apps?

Im just curious. I might consider learning it if its that easy.. I heard it was easy but I didnt think that it would be really easy..

Just wondering..
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 8:53 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I'd say "not easy enough for you".
Take that however you want.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 8:58 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

It looked hard for me to read at first.. But after looking at C++ it looked way easyier..

Just wondering if its good to learn..
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:59 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

http://java.sun.com/learning/new2java
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:10 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Java is easier than C++ if you're lazy.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:13 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

oh..
C++ looked easyier than java to me.. probably because im used to looking at that 1 language lately..
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:16 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Making a GUI in Java is more intuitive than using Win32 with C or C++, although Ekted would say it wastes too many resources compared to the alternative. Computers are fast these days, though, so it's not as much of an issue as it used to be. Plus cross platform capability never hurt anything other than performace, which we've already covered.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:37 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Quan ChiTwo, How could C++ 'look' easier? The syntax and many keywords are close to identical, and will probably look even more so to someone who isnt proficient in either.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:12 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Java is da bomb.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 2:34 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Java is slow
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:08 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:31 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Java is not slow.. :/ and I have a crappy computer lol
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:46 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I dont know how C++ looked(s) easier to me.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 6:55 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Yes Java is easy. It also cuts down on work for porting programs to other systems. For instance, because Smong made his chat thing in Java, I can easily chat on SSC on Linux.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:48 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 5:01 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

The only problems I have with Java are the incompatibilities I come across when trying to run an app compiled with a higher version than what it's trying to run on and that it interferes with directx/opengl in such a way that running the same app twice without rebooting often locks up my comp and causes cont to stop loading.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 6:55 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I am in the same boat is Quan Chi2. I prefer C++ over Java, because I have never tried to program in Java, all I have seen of it is a sample .class file. Quite honestly, I do prefer C++ over Java for 2 main reasons: CPU usage and because I know C++ already.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:05 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

CPU usage? Or do you mean memory usage, since everything is loaded dynamically? icon_wink.gif
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:14 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Whatever, I don't use Java, I don't care.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:01 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

If you plan to progress in programming.... that could be a bad attitude to have.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:25 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Well, I mean, C++ can do everything Java could, and if I want to get ot be web-based, I can move on to C Sharp.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:41 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

C can do everything C++ can, and assembly can do everything C can, so just use assembly.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 9:21 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

He didn't say he uses C++ solely because it can do everything Java can. I don't think not using Java is because stuck in the past, it's just a matter of preference. Both languages have their strengths.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 9:38 am   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Yes, but he's made it clear that it's not a matter of preference.

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I prefer C++ over Java, because I have never tried to program in Java
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 2:01 pm   Post maybe stupid    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

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