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Mr Ekted · Movie Geek Gender: Joined: Feb 09 2004 Posts: 1379 Offline

I use Analyzer for sniffing. http://analyzer.polito.it/

I absolutely loath Ethereal's UI.
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Gravitron · Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 5:57 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

You judge an entire app. by its UI?
That's like saying UO sux because it's graphics are inferior to some korean junk of a MMORPG.

So, is that the new politicaly-correct pretty word - analyzer?

Alex> Otherwise known as a packet editor it's used to sniff yr protocol up and so we can haxor your ass.
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Competitor> What is a network analyzer?

CypherJF · Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:10 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

An application can be powerful, but if users can't use it (easily) it might as well be no good. Sure, you can take the time to learn how to use it; but I like programs that I can quickly access and adapt to.
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Mr Ekted · Movie Geek Gender: Joined: Feb 09 2004 Posts: 1379 Offline

I put a lot of stock in useability. If Ethereal was far far superior, it WOULD make a difference, but Analyzer does what I need.

Maverick · Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:40 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Useability / UI is everything for people who are not that into computers and people that don't want to dive into an application.
(Useability is a hard thing, even windows makes mistakes here and there)
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CypherJF · Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 7:01 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

I love the case-study of Killer Robot we studied in our Software Development course this past spring. My professor has been trying to implement more of an ethic's portion into the CSC majors - and included this into the discussion.

Quick summary: a robot operator is killed at his terminal after an error message appeared on the screen. They have been investigating the cause of the death: was it because the programmer misinturpreted the physics formulas? was it because of the faulty interface? was it just inadaquate training?

Chapter 6 is the discussion of the importance of well-designed interfaces. Because in this case study, had it been changed, it may have saved his life.

Though it's a hypothetical case-study, it sure opens-the-eyes of those developers out there who are responsible for systems that may cause potential injury or death to people. This is where a discussion of whether or not Software -engineers- should be certified like any other profession. That can be held for another day.

SamHughes · Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 9:09 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

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Gravitron · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:15 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Sam, you're a moron.

Cifer, seems easy enough even for me to learn to handle.

Cerium · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:49 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Ekted is still not the k-elite hacker you are grav...

Gravitron · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:08 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Mine GO BOOM · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:32 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

D1st0rt · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:55 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Thats like my aunt who used to work on flight control systems for F-14s. If they fuck up and there's a bug in the system, they have to notify the next of kin
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