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Cerium

Recently, an internet friend of mine who offered to host my site has fallen through and basicly told me -- in nicer words -- 'go to hell', despite the fact I was going to pay him.

This leaves me in an awkward situation. I need hosting, and badly. I know theres a few of you out there who have your own webhosts and what not, so Im looking to you guys for advice:

I need a web host with the following:
-Storage: 500MiB
-Bandwidth: 10 Mibit/s pipe, 5 GiB transfer
-OS: Linux (Fedora or Redhat) or FreeBSD.
-Full shell access
-Control Panel (Cpanel prefered, anything acceptable)

Extras (Convenient, but with full shell, not necessary)
-mySQL
-PHP5

I dont care if its a virtual or dedicated server, so long as I have full shell so I can install Java and anything else I need (and they dont suck for resource distribution).

Thats about it. Higher specs are better, but I dont want to spend a whole lot of cash on this. Post any links you find.

Thanks
-C
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Chambahs · Power attack Joined: Jun 19 2005 Posts: 820 Offline

ask altec.

Gravitron · Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:06 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Hosting?

Ahmed hooked me up with http://www.hostgator.com , they got it all covered.

Cerium · Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:02 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Chambahs: Whos altec?

Grav: Wow... theyve got great prices on their reseller packages, but lack 1 key thing: Shell access. I even gave them a call to see if theyd install java on the machine for my accounts, and I was told I had to do get a dedicated server. And at 175/mo, I have to pass.

Gravitron · Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:25 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Silly, reseller is for pretending to be a webhost company and selling others hosting, you don't need that, unless you want to be like DoCk> and open your own hosting buissness.

Anyway, they also provide web-hosting on shared a server space where you can have shell access, pending on the following:

X`terrania · Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:31 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Nurples from 17th Parallel always had a hosting term.
www.nurples.com if it is still up.

Purge · Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:38 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

You can try getting SSCentral.

Gravitron · Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:38 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

For the cheap:
http://www.top8hosts.com/

D1st0rt · Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:58 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

TWSites offers shell access, and its fairly inexpensive. Plus the money goes back into the subspace community.
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Gravitron · Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:25 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Confess · Zone Hoster Joined: Feb 10 2004 Posts: 532 Offline

Aside from if you know some dedicated server owners, you can get dedicated servers for 99/m, or cheaper. Infact, you can get some for 30/m (but they are the suckiest thing ever!).

I reccomend http://servermatrix.com if you need a good, cheap dedicated server. If you want cheaper and better, contact me, im sure i can help!

Super Celeron 2.4

- 2.4GHz Celeron
- 80GB Drive
- 1024MB RAM
- 1200GB Bandwidth
- Private VLAN
- Red Hat, FreeBSD, Windows
- Orbit™ Customer Portal

- $119 Monthly / $99 Setup
- $129 Monthly / $49 Setup
- $139 Monthly / $0 Setup

This is the cheapest servermatrix has. Good luck!
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Cerium · Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:41 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Well the thing is, Im trying to stay away from SS hosting unless it ends up being the only option. While I will be running a number of bots on the server, I dont want to take the risk of having my server associated with any ss politics or internet-favors and such. Its how I ended up in this situation in the first place. Though, I am content with the server space Shanky/MGB provide me, I just need something with more functionality.

Confess, Yeah, Its starting to look that I need either a high end VPS, or a low end dedicated server. Problem is, both of them are in the 100/mo range, which is more than Im willing to spend on my personal site.

Contempt+ · Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:52 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Celeron procressors suck. Go AMD!!!
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Cyan~Fire · Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:14 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Actually, TWSites has totally migrated away anything it had to do with SS, ever. You can't find anything (except the name, which is pretty vague) anywhere that says it was once related.

However, I do have bad news about TWSites. I've had a problem with my cgiemail thing forever on there, and I created a "support ticket" on their wonderfully hokey support system. "Harvey" who basically seems to run the place said to give him a link, so I tried posting links, but you can't post '/' characters in followups or something so it took like 10 tries for me to actually get a link posted (had to do HTML escape in the end) and eventually my ticket got closed with no followup? Bleh. When I get off my butt, I'm going to find a better host.
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Gravitron · Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:50 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Hmm, nice confess.
Aside celeron sucking goats, nice.

But I looked inside, and it's a clean boot.
You have to install everything from SQL to a fucking cpanel.
Cheapos want more money PER MONTH for fucking anything but the OS.
So, if you're too lazy/clueless to do the installations of all you need for it to be a proper server, you can easily end up paying upto $200/month for just the basic shit.

So, I dunno...

Otherwise, yeah it sounds nice getting 1.2k GB/month transfer + 80 GB HD with 1024 RAM dedicated server for 100/month, on the surface.

1stStrike · Cute like a kitty Joined: Dec 28 2002 Posts: 427 Offline

I've been giving free webhosting out for a while now. I just don't go around spamming it. But, I don't give shell access. That's for people who like risks. I may live in Las Vegas, but I don't gamble.

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How much money are you willing to pay for hosting cerium?

anyways, servermatrix is actually just theplanet.com, which is why the servers are really nice, have very good uptime/etc. The Planet basically just created a second website to help sell the servers, instead of just lowing the prices on there own. (Although im sure there is some difference somewhere)

1stStrike · Cute like a kitty Joined: Dec 28 2002 Posts: 427 Offline

Yes, there is a big difference. You just don't see it in everyday occurences.

Confess · Zone Hoster Joined: Feb 10 2004 Posts: 532 Offline

Its the same datacenter, but whats the difference?

1stStrike · Cute like a kitty Joined: Dec 28 2002 Posts: 427 Offline

ServerMatrix has worse support, lower quality servers and not too long ago all of their backups failed and half of servermatrix was without power for several hours.

They put less money into servermatrix thus you get what you pay for. Their new datacenter is also full of problems.

CypherJF · Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 7:53 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Anyone try ServerBeach?
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Gravitron · Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:32 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Seems true enough 1st.
Which is why real dedicated or semi-dedicated servers cost as much as they do.

Cerium · Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:19 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Im willing to pay 50/mo max. Its a personal site for my development projects, nothing more. Id like to pay less, but thats not going to happen unless I manage to find someone who works in the business.

About TWSites... I emailed Harvey about it, and he pretty much shot down any chance he had with me going with them:

Confess · Zone Hoster Joined: Feb 10 2004 Posts: 532 Offline

Correct me if im wrong, but that seems more like just regular old hosting, not a dedicated server, plus, it is not 10mbps, but 1.5. Depending on how many servers they have...you might lag pretty badly..

Maybe look at -
http://www.helphousehosting.com/plans/
- or -
http://helphousehosting.com/reseller.htm

(Im not sure if this is what you're looking for or not)
As far as a dedicated server, contact me I say. I might be able to get you a pretty good one.

Cerium · Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:40 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

1.5 bidirectional is. You can upgrade your server to a 10mbit for an extra 210/mo, which is more than I need and willing to spend.

The helphousehosting site looks like theyre a reseller themself. No machine specs listed, and almost a template website look. Plus, resller hosting plays wont work, since I need shell access capible of installing and running software.

List off some specs, prices and other info. Like I said before, if its run/maintained or directly influenced by someone from subspace (or someone younger than me), its out. I refuse to deal with anyones personal politics.