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Confess Zone Hoster
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 3:53 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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well it requires knowledge Bak, knowledge i just dont have!
Im saying- Create a new subgame that can be more customizable, such as the first post. ASSS is very different from subgame, which is why i wont use it. If there was a better subgame, one more customizable without knowledge of any kind of language. Then, you can release the source code to users who wish to use it.
In order to create modules, you need knowledge of C or w/e it is. I've never used ASSS so...i cant tell you. ASSS doesnt appeal to me as much as subgame does. Infact, i couldnt even get ASSS to work =/
Im sure lots of people would use the subgame 2  _________________ I know that I myself cannot do anything, that I will fall, and that I am a sinful man, but I know that I can do ANYTHING through God Almighty, whom strengthens me. |
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50% Packetloss Server Help Squatter

Age:40 Gender: Joined: Sep 09 2003 Posts: 561 Location: Santa Clarita, California Offline
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:04 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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ASSS can do everything subgame can do. I bet I can find plenty of things in subgame that you don't understand, but that doesn't mean that you lack the ability to use the program. Give ASSS a shot, you'll be able to figure it out. _________________ Current Terror Alert Level
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Dr Brain Flip-flopping like a wind surfer

Age:39 Gender: Joined: Dec 01 2002 Posts: 3502 Location: Hyperspace Offline
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:14 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Subgame is not open source, and thus cannot be changed by us. Beg all you want, but no one can do anything about it. _________________ Hyperspace Owner
Smong> so long as 99% deaths feel lame it will always be hyperspace to me |
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Confess Zone Hoster
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:39 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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I said create, not edit
Anyways...like i said..i couldnt even get asss to startup, and thats a big reason people dont use it.
Btw, is there an ASSS website? |
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50% Packetloss Server Help Squatter

Age:40 Gender: Joined: Sep 09 2003 Posts: 561 Location: Santa Clarita, California Offline
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 5:32 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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ROFL. He can't get ASSS to start and he doesn't even know where to download it.
www.sscx.net/asss/
You should probably have python installed too |
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D1st0rt Miss Directed Wannabe

Age:37 Gender: Joined: Aug 31 2003 Posts: 2247 Location: Blacksburg, VA Offline
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:45 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Creating a new subgame is just ridiculous when we already have asss. You don't need to write modules in order to run a server. ASSS is even easier to use than subgame, all the setup requires is extracting it and a single double-click on asss.bat _________________
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CypherJF I gargle nitroglycerin

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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:02 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Well I'll say this. I'm thankful Dr. Brain was around helping me figure out ASSS. The documentation for it isn't the greatest, as much as I hate to say it. For example, at the time I was working w/ it, it was a pain to get a player to have powers. Specifically, letting me to have sysop powers. If I had a heck of a time, I'm sure many many others would have to. _________________ Performance is often the art of cheating carefully. - James Gosling |
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Confess Zone Hoster
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:25 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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I downloaded it from ssdl =/
Anyways, im gonna give it a second try. Bots run on ASSS right?
Subgame is just a better platform in my opinion, and many others im sure. All im saying is a second subgame thats a little more customizable would be sweet. And im urging someone to make one  |
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Bak ?ls -s 0 in

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Confess Zone Hoster
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:04 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Easier to use and setup...reliable on windows (although i hate the fact that it uses a lot of cpu). Perhaps an altered ASSS version would be nice for non-expirenced people. Then, if they wish..they can go up to ASSS.
Make ASSS a little more noob friendly, make it simular to subgame, yet better... |
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i88gerbils Oldbie Server Help

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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:04 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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ASSS is the next subgame. _________________ Oldbie Server Help |
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Confess Zone Hoster
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:31 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Sure, if SS wants to die... ASSS needs to be simplified...its hard to work with, even for me (although thats not saying much =/ lol) |
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Purge Episode I > Eposide III Jar-Jar is kool

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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:33 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Just read the userguide. It gave me a clear idea of ASSS. |
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LearJett+ Server Help Squatter
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:34 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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I just read it and I couldn't even understand that :-\ |
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Confess Zone Hoster
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:59 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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The userguide is not only confusing, but long =/ |
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Bak ?ls -s 0 in

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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:09 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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subgame is easier to set up? ASSS requires no setup, just double click the .bat file and your zone is running. |
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Confess Zone Hoster
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:29 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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sure, if you want default settings and map =/
Edit- same with subgame... |
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Bak ?ls -s 0 in

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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:00 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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but with subgame you also have to do additional things, like a run a billing server and modify ini files. |
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Confess Zone Hoster
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:16 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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same with asss |
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50% Packetloss Server Help Squatter

Age:40 Gender: Joined: Sep 09 2003 Posts: 561 Location: Santa Clarita, California Offline
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:56 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Hopefully ASSS gets rid of newb zones, that way when I download the directory server list, I'm not spammed with CTF in the title of every zone.
Bots run on ASSS but there are quirks which haven't been addressed, so its better to use modules, they are more reliable anyway.
ASSS works fine on windows, I haven't had a problem. |
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Confess Zone Hoster
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:22 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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IF asss was around when subspace was first introduced, many of the currect zones would not exist =/, ever think of that? Im not just talkin about Halo, im talkin DSB...EG...eh, i guess they could have...but i donno, so im going to stop blabling. |
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i88gerbils Oldbie Server Help

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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:37 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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"Oh, no you didn't girlfriend."
There was a different kind of breed of developer back then. If ASSS had been the original server software we would probably have saved a lot of the population before Twister hit. But who cares. You're just a newb who doesn't know anything. |
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Dr Brain Flip-flopping like a wind surfer

Age:39 Gender: Joined: Dec 01 2002 Posts: 3502 Location: Hyperspace Offline
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 9:03 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Confess wrote: | IF asss was around when subspace was first introduced, many of the currect zones would not exist =/, ever think of that? Im not just talkin about Halo, im talkin DSB...EG...eh, i guess they could have...but i donno, so im going to stop blabling. |
Yes. There would be several more much much better zones. |
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D1st0rt Miss Directed Wannabe

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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:04 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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bak wrote: | but with subgame you also have to do additional things, like a run a billing server and modify ini files. |
confess wrote: | same with asss |
WRONG! ASSS runs right out of the box without any modifications or other programs |
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i88gerbils Oldbie Server Help

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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 1:22 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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You basically have to ask yourself the following questions:
What is Python?
If you don't know, then remove the python modules from modules.conf
What is MySQL?
If you don't know or don't have it, then remove the mysql module from modules.conf.
Hey, newbie faq! :d
Edit: Topic Split moved to Trash Talk for General Discussion. |
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