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Protoman.exe · Newbie Age:35 Gender: Joined: Jun 27 2004 Posts: 5 Offline

Me and My friend were wondering where we can learn how to code if there are any manuals out there that we can learn off or something else, tnx -proto

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wEaViL · Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:02 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

do a google search for it... you'll find alot of helpful sites

CypherJF · Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:40 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

My friend and I...

Google is probably one of the best tools around. Use it.

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Also learning "to code" is probably one of the most.. heck I don't even know the word for it... but code what? computers? if so, then you probably need to begin at a very high level langauge such as Visual Basic.
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Cyan~Fire · Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:29 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Visual Basic = Harder than C++.

Basically, VB is the language to learn if you want to throw together a GUI in no time with the crappiest behind-the-scenes code ever.
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CypherJF · Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:46 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Vb is not harder than C++ lol

Solo Ace · Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 1:13 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

[SOS]C#[/SOS]

myke · Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:03 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

oh god no... .NET coding does everything for you besides a little bit of typing

Solo Ace · Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:21 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Haha, maybe that's why he likes it.

I started with C++, maybe it was smarter to start with C instead, to learn the basics first.
Now every time I have a coding problem SOS tells me to switch to C# because it wouldn't give me those problems, he says.

CypherJF · Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:02 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

I heard that too but I don't want to be bound up by MS crap.

Dr Brain · Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:02 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Yah, don't use SkyNet... err, I mean .NET. You'll never get free.

I would reccomend C or C++. I'm not actually sure which is better for a newbie.
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Cyan~Fire · Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:08 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

C++ is better for a newbie. I've found that when I started coding, I used iostreams and classes and blah blah blah, but now I'm gradually going C. (I still do like some of C++'s features though.)

Mine GO BOOM · Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:57 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

I personally believe C is better to learn at than C++. As long as you don't plan on wanting to make the next Unreal game your first time around, C will teach you much better.

Plus, it forces you to learn gets, scanf, prinf, and others that are very valuable to know. Even when I had crappy classes, I always used those instead of cin/cout, which is only used in beginner's programs.

Solo Ace · Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 1:11 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

I disagree with Cyan (n0b) and agree with MGB, learning the basics gets you a lot further than starting with all the extras.
I regret I started with C++, now I feel like a confused coding newbie instead of just a coding newbie.

Mine GO BOOM · Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 1:37 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

Ha, I learned C by imitated Ghost Ship. I didn't even have a compiler at the time, I just edited Ghost Ship's bot source for Pro League at the time, send him the files, and HE compiled it and returned the errors. Now thats truly learning by trial and error.

Of course, for the past two years, I learned Perl the same way, but at least I had found ActiveState's perl debugger program. So learning C the same way wasn't hard, since I already understood some of the basics like ; are very important.

Damn you Alex, your the reason my coding skills started out like shit. But then again, thanks for introducing me to C. All is forgiven.

This post was dedicated to Ekted, so he has a better understanding of why I code like I do.

Mr Ekted · Movie Geek Gender: Joined: Feb 09 2004 Posts: 1379 Offline

If you intend to be serious about programming, you should start with C. Learning VB or C++ will get you up and going faster, but then you will need to "start over" to do anything significant. As you get better with C, you will naturally need to understand ASM for debugging purposes.

Solo Ace · Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:29 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

That's right, I have to start over now to understand what I'm actually doing.

Smong · Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 5:42 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

I think this link might be useful:
http://vergil.chemistry.gatech.edu/resources/programming/c-tutorial/toc.html

D1st0rt · Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 11:06 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

this is a good all-purpose reference for more than just C programming (I use it for physics):
http://www.teicontrols.com/notes/
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a_bug · Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 3:01 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

i am now gonna take up c coding, and uhhh what do i put all this coding in, i mean i make html in like a .html. so where can i get a compiler and who can tell me where i put all this coding? thanks

-a_bug

50% Packetloss · Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 3:17 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

You can use many different compilers, but the main one for windows systems is Microsoft Visual Studios or Visual C++. Youll first need to learn how to code, pick up a book and teach yourself. HTML is nothing like C++, html is a scripting language that is not translated into computer language, C code is translated into op codes that a microprocessor can understand. Just look for "c++ compiler" on google, and all C++ compilers support C

Smong · Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:01 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

I save my source to .c and .h files. A free C/C++ compiler for windows is MinGW, you can use the Dev-C++ IDE with it.

Blindmonkey21 · Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:27 am *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

All I know is that my first language was Java and I sucked at that REALLY bad. (I don't know anything past for loops) At that point I gave up programming and now I just let other people do my work for me $$$

Sorry just had to put in my 2 cents

a_bug · Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:18 pm *Post maybe stupid* Post subject:

thanks guys, and blind, if u keep on with ur 2 cents posting ur gonna get banned, just a word of caution. im installing mingw now. so will this let me write code in it or while it just compile already written files?

Mr Ekted · Movie Geek Gender: Joined: Feb 09 2004 Posts: 1379 Offline

Source code is just text. You can use notepad, or even a word processor if you like. If MingW is a complete development system, it may have it's own text editor, but it's not necessary.