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Mine GO BOOM Hunch Hunch What What

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Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 3:40 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Mr Ekted wrote: | ... in pixels. |
... in binary without needing more than a bit. |
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Dr Brain Flip-flopping like a wind surfer

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Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 3:55 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Haha, nice jab, Ekted.
Akai and I had a long argument in game about that a while back. _________________ Hyperspace Owner
Smong> so long as 99% deaths feel lame it will always be hyperspace to me |
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Helicon Server Help Squatter
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 5:19 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Grav(FU OL) wrote: | Take math for example, sin, cosin, tangent, log, etc., today's kids - they just push buttons, they rarely understand what exactly is going on there. |
oh yeah, in the olden days, we had to use charts... that was understanding.
(Actually, it was just slow as hell...) _________________ Signatures just seem so quaint. |
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 5:38 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Trig isn't all button pushing, first you have to cope with an irrational number, pi. Then the functions also repeat forever, so you've got things like sin(n+2pi) your calculator won't print out all the possible solutions for you.
I have my doubts about the 96k game, it could be a virus, or a hoax like a certain xbox emulator. You can get a load of 'demos' at www.pouet.net |
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ExplodyThingy Server Help Squatter
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 5:48 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Its probably just like Minuete OS with really bitching code optimization, compression and such. _________________ There are no stupid question, but there are many inquisitive idiots.
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Mr Ekted Movie Geek

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Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 6:38 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Dr Brain wrote: | Haha, nice jab, Ekted.
Akai and I had a long argument in game about that a while back. |
I still laugh at him (and Ancient Power) about it when I can.  _________________ 4,691 irradiated haggis! |
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 1:33 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Like I said, buttons or charts, same shit.
There are quite few constant angles to which there's a percise root which gives you the requested number.
You should know it, you should understand it.
But you don't.
You are weak. |
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Cyan~Fire I'll count you!

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Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 4:36 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Understanding sine, cosine, and tangent really isn't that hard. I think most people here get it. _________________ This help is informational only. No representation is made or warranty given as to its content. User assumes all risk of use. Cyan~Fire assumes no responsibility for any loss or delay resulting from such use.
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Helicon Server Help Squatter
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 6:09 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Cyan~Fire wrote: | Understanding sine, cosine, and tangent really isn't that hard. I think most people here get it. |
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ExplodyThingy Server Help Squatter
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 7:33 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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So after all that, does anyone here actually know of a way to learn this language? If so, link me, most things I've found require that I be very intimate with the guts of a system, which im not, hence me learning this, or assume Im a completel idiot and define what a compiler is. |
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Mine GO BOOM Hunch Hunch What What

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Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 10:45 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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ExplodyThingy wrote: | So after all that, does anyone here actually know of a way to learn this language? |
Can't get better for free than Art of Assembly Language. Free, huge online text book. Uses HLA (High Level Assembly) for the language, which allows you to learn x86 very easily in the beginning since you don't need to make your own I/O functions. HLA also allows you to work in pure assembly also, so once you learn a bunch, you can do pure assembly to your heart's content.
I'd recommend that over anything else. But remember, that book is designed to be skipped around, so don't expect it to teach you straight through, chapter by chapter. |
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Mr Ekted Movie Geek

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Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 11:08 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Another thing you can do is program in C but have your compiler output ASM/source listings. In MSVC do Project/Settings/C-C++/Listing-Files/Source-ASM-Machine. After you build there will be .COD files in your output folders. You can see what your code traslates to. Understanding at least some of it helps quite a bit when you are debugging stuff. |
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 3:07 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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I use an old book, ~10 years in age, which teaches 80386.
Ha Ha Ha. |
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Dustpuppy Server Help Squatter

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Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 5:58 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Mr Ekted wrote: | Another thing you can do is program in C but have your compiler output ASM/source listings. |
Nice to know how to do that.
I've done little bits in ASM before so using this in the right places could help me improve code efficiency and learn ASM... _________________
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