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Cookieteam · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 12:08 pm Post subject: Super Settings

Can anyone tell me what the thrust and speed settings are when you use the *super command?

Erf · Novice Joined: Aug 09 2003 Posts: 49 Offline

experimentation is the key to understanding :]

Cyan~Fire · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:14 pm Post subject:

Ahem tell that to yourself Erf.

"What's the max bullet speed?"

They're the max values possible, AFAIK. So just take the max values of the setting datatypes themselves.
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Cookieteam · Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 12:04 pm Post subject:

Ok. Thanks. Where can I find the Max possible values then?

Cyan~Fire · Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 4:25 pm Post subject:

Well thrust and speed are both unsigned shorts. You can figure it out from there.

CypherJF · Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:36 pm Post subject:

Are you sure it doesn't cap it cyan?
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Maucaub · Newbie Joined: Apr 15 2004 Posts: 12 Offline

The maximum thrust, speed, and recharge of a *super ship are increased proportionally to the maximum values set in the server.cfg, but are not blindly set to the max value for the datatype.

D1st0rt · Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 10:12 am Post subject:

CypherJF · Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 1:51 pm Post subject:

Actually, I think the 255 issue was resolved, because I sat in an arena once just throwing out more than 255 decoys, and still had em. I know in SS1.34 and lower, it'd run out after some time.

Maucaub · Newbie Joined: Apr 15 2004 Posts: 12 Offline

Continuum treats *super ships differently than the VIE client. Also, some of those limits in the documentation are inaccurate.

When you *super, the max item settings (BurstMax,DecoyMax,etc) are set by the server to be 128 (with the exception of RepelMax, which is set to 117).

The VIE client initially gave you 64 of each item at the time of *super, but you could *prize up to the above max values. Regardless, it respected those max limits set by the server. Note, though, that it is not set to 255 and nor do you get stocked up to the max immediately after a *super.

Continuum, on the other hand, gives you 1000 of each item the moment you *super, which I'm sure is done to give the appearance of unlimited specials. You cannot *prize yourself any higher than that. In fact, you can't even *prize yourself back up to 1000 once you use some items. This is because after the *super takes affect, the limits above set by the server kick in and block any prizes until you use up enough items to fall below the limit. For example, if you used up 900 bursts, you could only prize yourself back up to 128. To get back up to 1000, simply *super again.

Max thrust/speed/recharge, as I said, are increased proportionally to the max values set in the cfg. The actual numbers, for the record, are as follows:

SuperMaxThrust = (5*MaxThrust)/2
SuperMaxSpeed = 3*MaxSpeed
SuperMaxRecharge = 16*MaxRecharge

Note that this implies that if you're not careful, you can cause the *super settings to 'wrap' the datatype (in this case, unsigned word/short) and cause strange things to happen, such as *super ships being slower than normal ships! (In order for this to happen, though, your normal ship speed must be set to an unplayably high value, so it's typically not an issue).