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Smong - Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:01 am
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For some reason I was using windows media player recently (probably was testing to see if my DVDs still stuttered). Anyway now all my music has been modified by WMP. All my stuff is from ytmnd.com, as a result all the md5's changed and now it's hard to find the sites they came from

A quick look shows it adds the "Other" genre to mp3's without a genre specified. But it also modifies mp3's that already have a genre set.

Well anyway this is just a warning that WMP edits your files without asking you. As a precaution I've set all my stuff to read-only now, just incase I accidentally open WMP again.

BDwinsAlt - Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:37 pm
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Have you tried using a different oper I mean media player.
Windows......Media Player sucks. It puts too much Album Art spam in your folder.

Hope you can repair the damage. Nice job on C&C. Nice call on ditching WMP. Maybe it won't change the permissions to the files on its own. That would be crazy.

baseball43v3r - Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:54 pm
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kinda off topic but is there any way to make a certain media player play automatically with downloaded files? like everytime i download a movie or short clip it opens windows media player automatically and only by clicking on the file does media player classic open. i want media player classic to be the one to pop open automatically and i'm not sure how to set that. any help would be appreciated. (i'm using firefox)

Smong - Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:16 pm
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You could try going to options -> file types, then unchecking all the associations.

baseball43v3r - Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:49 pm
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done that hasn't worked. done it for both. its gotta do with the firefox setts but i'm not sure which ones

The Apache - Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:25 pm
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shut up BD. "windows....... media player sucks"

i bet you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
i rather like using windows media player because it having a nice clean interface, much easier to access music and videos, and easy to play DVDs too. nice default skin and quick searching for music.

i guess i can't comment on smong because i've never had that problem (or i never noticed it lol), but i can recommend you use foobar2000, it's a very light program and very fast scanning of files - and it won't edit your music either. free too, no adware ect. http://www.foobar2000.org

but i just felt the need to shut BD up.

Samapico - Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:38 pm
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Tools -> Options...

Media Library

There are a bunch of options to automatically organize/name your files...

baseball43v3r - Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:50 pm
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not a single file type is associated with WMP and it still doesn't matter. if i open music or movies on my computer it either opens on winamp or MPC which is fine. but if i open movies or music on the web through firefox it opens in WMP and i'm not sure how to change that

BDwinsAlt - Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:40 pm
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The Apache wrote:

Tough love I guess. I know you're doing it out of love. I'll stop.

Haha now that I think about it, I used to use Windows Media player. MusicMatch was the one that sucked. I just wanted to hate on Windows and disguise it as Windows Media Player. Notice the long pause (...........).

I guess there is no reason to hate windows except to try to look cool and fail. How am I doing?

Cyan~Fire - Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:10 pm
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apache wrote:

i rather like using windows media player because it having a nice clean interface, much easier to access music and videos, and easy to play DVDs too. nice default skin and quick searching for music.

Are you sure you're not talking Winamp or Zinf or something? I ask since WMP is about the opposite of what you just described.

Samapico - Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:01 pm
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Media Player is very efficient when it comes to managing a large music library... and I did try winamp a few times... but it didn't do any of the features I liked about WMP

BDwinsAlt - Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:23 pm
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I like winamp. I use a winamp skin for XMMS. I like the blue theme. I personally like how winamp manages playlists. You can easily play files and folders (same with WMP). There are a lot of plugins for Winamp too. If you want winamp to do something different you can always find or make a plugin. Not sure about WMP. It's good for internet radio too. If you use WMP you have to stream directly from the sound card. I'm sure no one wants to hear your IMs.

WMP is a lot more light weight than that MusicMatch Jutebox. I hate that thing. Takes forever to load and hogs memory. Most of the dell installed software created conflicts with Windows (when I got it) so I uninstalled it. Their wifi manager along with Symantec (EWWW) made the internet not work. Once it was uninstalled it worked.

Works fine on Ubuntu as well. Using less memory and it runs faster (even without swap space which I could now add since I deleted my restore partition). No need since I'm using less than half my memory almost all the time anyway. Which leads me to my question...

QUESTION: Why does Windows Update cause svchost.exe to take up 99% CPU for 5-10 minutes on Windows XP and 2000? My sister always goes from 180 FPS to about 5 FPS once it starts and she can't do anything on her pc. Wouldn't they want to update that one day? It's happend on all my XP machines and both my 2000 machines. I looked it up. Even if I do a spyware scan and remove any spyware (no viruses either) then it still does it. Only explaination is Windows Update because that's the ONLY time it happens.

Samapico - Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:23 pm
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I remember my dad installing musicmatch jukebox... that thing sucked badly... Only thing I used it for was to convert wma->mp3 back in the day

and emm... disable automatic updates then

Animate Dreams - Sat Jun 16, 2007 4:01 pm
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Yo, Smong, that only happens if you have a certain option(or options) set. I remember thinking it would be a good idea to have it fill in stuff for me once, and it ended up putting everything in the wrong place. :x Well, that's not entirely true, it actually fixed a lot of things I was clueless about, but it totally destroyed others. I have so much music now that I don't worry about tags anymore. But, with WMP, I can quickly find and play any song I want, or put it on random through my whole playlist, without wasting too many resources(iTunes). No other media player/manager is even an option for me excepting WinAmp, which I haven't used since WinAmp 3 because it sucked so much ass. I've heard it got better, but I really don't care. WMP works flawlessly for me. WMP mixed with MPC is perfect for me, because even though I'm big on saving resources, there's no way to do that and still run a playlist of 15 million songs. Of course, when I just want to play a single song/video, I use MPC because it's so light.

Smong - Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:35 pm
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I did go through the options and I didn't see anything about it automatically scanning the My Music folder for "new" music files. I have considered putting all my music into another folder, or maybe another partition (reclaim some space on the main partition), I don't have much music though so it's not really worth it.

Animate Dreams - Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:54 pm
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Hm, I keep all my documents(music, movies, written documents) or otherwise non-executable code on my secondary drive, and install all my programs including the OS on the main drive. This makes reformatting easier. Reformatting feels like taking a shower, to me. And I haven't formatted in like a year... I'm sad.

Dustpuppy - Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:43 pm
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I would just like to say that foobar2k is where it's at.
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Animate Dreams - Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:26 am
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Er, I thought that was a WinAmp plugin. :x

Anonymous - Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:08 am
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Cyan~Fire wrote:

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Are you sure you're not talking Winamp or Zinf or something? I ask since WMP is about the opposite of what you just described.

nah, i'm being honest. windows media player is quite fast - and i find the interface really easy to use. i love the search function on it too.

i don't like winamp purely because i don't like the interface on it with all the buttons and functions. i like windows media player because of the things i want to do with my music... nothing special.

i only use foobar if i want to listen to just one song or something.

Cyan~Fire - Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:48 pm
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the apache (school) wrote:

My Winamp screen presents more information in the same amount of space as WMP and I don't find it unclear at all.

(I'm listening to such a low-quality stream since I'm at work and flying under the radar a little here as they don't like internet radio.)

Smong - Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:23 pm
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WMP does something similar with the mini skins and when it minimizes to the task bar (it shows more info using a toast like thing when you mouse over or for a few seconds after the track changes).

Animate Dreams - Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:13 pm
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Cyan~Fire wrote:

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My Winamp screen presents more information in the same amount of space as WMP and I don't find it unclear at all.

Well, it doesn't show as much information as MY WMP, I don't know wtf WMP you were using. Unless you maybe used skins? But who uses skins? WMP is a music MANAGER, if you're just looking for what's in that tiny box, you shoud definitely be using MPC.

Cyan~Fire - Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:37 am
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OK, well I don't want to start some nerdy war here, but can I see your WMP screenshot? I have never seen WMP present information in an efficient manner since v6. Also, I do have the music library installed for Winamp but very rarely use it.

Animate Dreams - Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:10 pm
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https://forums.minegoboom.com/files/WMP.PNG

Cyan~Fire - Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:01 pm
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I was going to make a serious reply but I just noticed that you are playing Spice Girls and cannot do it.

Samapico - Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:01 pm
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HAHAHAH lolz

stop right now... thank you very much............

BDwinsAlt - Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:01 pm
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What's wrong with the spice girls?

And the all famous WinAmp Skin for XMMS

Let's make it light weight.

Edit: Time is way off. I posted this at about 2 pm...
says Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:56 pm

MGB, your VM is moving a bit fast again.

Solo Ace - Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:01 pm
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Nobody cares about your linux crap BD, argh, shut the hell up.

Cyan~Fire - Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:01 pm
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Hmm, well Boten Anna is a good song, but Rammstein kills any gain which you might have made, BD.

Mine GO BOOM - Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:01 pm
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BDwinsAlt wrote:

Edit: Time is way off. I posted this at about 2 pm...
says Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:56 pm

MGB, your VM is moving a bit fast again.

Damnit... For some reason, ntp-client didn't startup when I rebooted the machine. It is fixed, and I'll now have to go edit some timestamps so they are in order..

Found it. It is a race between the Xen VM auto-loading before the main machine starts up ntpd. Added a 'after' to the xendomain script, should fix it.

Cyan~Fire - Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:05 pm
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Actually, BD, the only reason you haven't gone on my ignore list yet is so that I can correct you when you give people horrible advice. The only other stuff you post is either some retarded crap like LSD-inspired cockroaches or "look at me I use Linux" bragging. Please, tone it down a bit.

BDwinsAlt - Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:35 pm
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Lies. You could never ignore me. You just can't. Why are you hating on my XMMS? Everyone else was showing off WMP or WinAmp. What's wrong with my media player? Rammstein isn't bad either.

EDIT: Whoa the posts are way out of order. Something weird just happened. Cyan and Solo's responses are above my screenshots. MGB must be editting the time stamps or something.

Cyan~Fire - Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:07 pm
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Look, as I said, the only reason I "can't" ignore you is because you give people crap advice that will only end up hurting them. Otherwise, I would.

So stop being a faggot.

Animate Dreams - Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:16 pm
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ALL media players suck, there's no point in showing any of them off. And Cyan, how'd you know I was playing a Spice Girls song? That wasn't a song that was on the radio, you must have intimate knowledge of the Spice CD....

BDwinsAlt - Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:36 pm
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To Cyan: If you wanna be my lover, you've got to stfu.
This is trash talk. Get over it already. Just go ahead and ignore me. (Advice you can't ignore.)

I love annoying you. You give me the attention I ask for.

Solo Ace - Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:00 pm
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Wait. Lover? Did you know fags get injected with HIV-infected blood here, on fag parties?

Haha, stop fagging, you fag, you!

Nothing wrong with XMMS, but not like it's anything special.

Media Player Classic is great, but heh, I use Winamp mostly. I think Windows Media Player's GUI is just bloated, and the Media Library seems to be refreshing its content on every load.

BDwinsAlt - Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:33 pm
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LOL SOLO. At least someone is doing something to keep the epidemic lower than it is. Every 13 seconds someone dies of AIDS in Africa and every 9 seconds someone new gets HIV. It's really sad. Why can't they do something about it? They are developing natural immunities to it now. Maybe they can figure out how they are immune to it and create a cure.

On the subject of XMMS, I know it isn't special. The XMMS project was discontinued a while back. I just like it better than using a movie player to play music. It's too big, takes up too much space. It doesn't look that appealing either. At least with xmms you have a lot of skins and cool plugins.

I guess it's just a matter of what you prefer. WMP can play movies, not sure if there is a plugin to allow WinAmp to do that. I know xmms can transfer your movie playing request to a movie player.

I don't think XMMS edits music though. I know WMP fills your folder with Albumart (if you can see hidden files). I could care less what the album looks like.

I'm not actually gay, and I don't plan on getting HIV any time soon.

Samapico - Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:53 pm
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Animate Dreams wrote:

And Cyan, how'd you know I was playing a Spice Girls song? That wasn't a song that was on the radio, you must have intimate knowledge of the Spice CD....

Look at my attached pic...

Smong - Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:47 am
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Mine GO BOOM wrote:

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Damnit... For some reason, ntp-client didn't startup when I rebooted the machine. It is fixed, and I'll now have to go edit some timestamps so they are in order..

Found it. It is a race between the Xen VM auto-loading before the main machine starts up ntpd. Added a 'after' to the xendomain script, should fix it.

This explains why the order of posts in this thread is weird, fortunately I was reading it backwards anyway.

Mine GO BOOM - Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:40 am
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Smong wrote:

This explains why the order of posts in this thread is weird.

It should have been fixed, in that any post made after my date (which was after I restarted the ntp client) was be set to be the same as my timestamp.

Smong - Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:13 am
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It looks ok now.

Cyan~Fire - Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:24 pm
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@BD: Dang, I think I got over the attention-hungry "HAHAHA I'M ANNOYING YOU" stage by time I was 16, but I guess maturity levels vary. You're still a dick and still not going on my ignore list, sorry.

Maybe we should just start ignoring BD except when it is necessary to correct him for the good of mankind? He's obviously getting off on the attention he's receiving right now.

@Solo: Let's fag!

The Apache - Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:46 pm
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yeah BD is at that point in e-life where he tries to exploit those who are annoyed at him.
quite sad really...

Animate Dreams - Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:09 pm
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The Apache wrote:

yeah BD is at that point in e-life where he tries to exploit those who are annoyed at him.
quite sad really...

This is a complex documented by Freud. It's called "SubSpace".

BDwinsAlt - Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:05 pm
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Animate Dreams wrote:

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This is a complex documented by Freud. It's called "SubSpace".

Yup.
..........

But I'll add you to ignore instead for your sake (Cyan, not Animate).

Edit: Ok I've decided to not be a retard. I'll be mature about it and not respond to anything cyan says. Hopefully the ignore will keep me from temptation.

Help me keep my word on this please.

Animate Dreams - Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:31 pm
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Smong - Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:52 am
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As a side note I uninstalled VMPlayer and DVDs still stutter. I suppose if I open the case to remove any dust I can also put the 80 connector ribbon cable in that it keeps warning me about when I boot.

Animate Dreams - Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:13 pm
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Samapico wrote:

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Look at my attached pic...

Owned =\

Animate Dreams - Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:30 am
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I think I might have to take back what I said about there being no good media managers. Media Monkey is working really well for me. One of the things it's popular for is the way it handles info tags, so if you're into info management, it should satisfy you. It also has a feature where you can get it to check Amazon for the correct tags, and apply them. It even has check boxes, so if you highlight 20 songs, and only want the information for 13 of them, you can highlight those songs, etc. Basically, it doesn't do anything automatically, but you can have it do everything for you. It also rips in FLAC. I haven't tried it yet, but I can't imagine there being any problems there. It took me like 3 weeks to figure out how to list all the songs at once and play through them all... turns out you can just click Album or Artist and it'll do it that way. I didn't try very hard to find it out. >_> Anyway, I'm not going to list all its features, because I'm still learning how to use it. It's meeting all my demands, though... it seems to be REALLY lightweight, but I haven't really pushed it yet, so I'm not sure exactly how lightweight it is. Um... I still haven't figured out where the shuffle button is. I haven't even been in the options menu yet, and the fact that I haven't had to is pretty good.

My only issue with it is that for all its features to be unlocked you have to pay. Fortunately, I don't think I want to use any of the features. There is like... a sleep timer. So far that's all I've noticed that I'm not able to use. I think it's only 20$, though, and I may buy it anyway, just to support them. One of my biggest problems with buying programs like this is they just make a new update and you have to buy it again if you want everything... but I suppose I can always pirate it if that happens. I have like 10k songs and this is really helping organize them, though. Anyway, I thought some of you might want to check it out. I think it's great.