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Anonymous - Sat Dec 31, 2005 7:17 pm
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Im confused, can someone HELP ME? Im tryin to figure out how to host a web page on my server, and im having trouble. What do i have to do?

Anonymous - Sat Dec 31, 2005 8:27 pm
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I wouldnt hurt to reply an answer or not...
Im new to servers so please try to help me out.

SpecShip - Sat Dec 31, 2005 8:35 pm
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O.o;;
I'll play it safe...

Are you running a webserver?
If so, what program (apache, etc.)?

or

Are you running a SubSpace game server thinking it host webpages instead of zones?

Wild guess, you googled here looking for "server help" and never even heard of SubSpace, right?

Anonymous - Sat Dec 31, 2005 10:03 pm
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I use the NoFeel FTP server...

Anonymous - Sun Jan 01, 2006 12:31 pm
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Ok now what? If im asking stupid question dont mind them because im new at this (seriously)

Contempt+ - Sun Jan 01, 2006 2:02 pm
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Are you hosting from your computer, or from a dedicated server?

Anonymous - Sun Jan 01, 2006 2:13 pm
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I made it so the computer im using is my server.

Contempt+ - Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:37 pm
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Hmm.. You'd have to get some software, like Apache.

Anonymous - Sun Jan 01, 2006 7:01 pm
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Ok, thnx ill keep that in mind.

wEaViL - Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:03 am
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FTP server = File Transfer Protocal
A server used to transfer files to users

HTTP servers server html and htm files... webpages
You need HTTP server
google apache or IIS

1stStrike - Mon Jan 02, 2006 3:44 am
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Wow..he's just begging to be exploited running a web/ftp server with no idea on what he's doing. I give him a week before his computer becomes a spam zombie.

SpecShip - Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:35 pm
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Zombie is too good a condition, it relies on the fact that the machine would still function.
Higher chances it'll get virus'd and formatted.

Quan Chi2 - Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:57 pm
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Zombies own. They destroy so quickly!

wEaViL - Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:26 am
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I've had no problems running my webserver... I use apache 2 with ssl along with the firewall from the router and my internal firewall. Never had a problem with any hacks or anything. Just wish I could use my ftp server with my router.

Solo Ace - Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:06 am
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How can you not?

Contempt+ - Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:38 pm
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Yeah, it's not that hard if you have the right FTP server software. I use BulletProof 2.1.5 and I've had no problems. Forward ports that have a high value, up in the 20,000's to 30,000's.

Cyan~Fire - Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:56 pm
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WTF? FTP is 21.

Anonymous - Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:08 pm
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Jeez, its not like im Mr. WiZzZ at Servers. I didnt know

whoopsy doop. So i'll search for IIS or Apache.

Solo Ace - Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:37 pm
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Cyan, he probably means passive mode, although he still doesn't sound like he knows what he's talking about.

Read up on Active (PORT)/Passive (PASV) FTP.

Contempt+ - Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:53 pm
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Eh, yeah. Forgot to mention that.

phong - Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:21 pm
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duh

Cyan~Fire - Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:25 pm
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And just why are you using passive mode, Contempt?

Contempt+ - Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:29 pm
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Dunno.. I haven't really looked into switching it to active.

Anonymous - Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:57 pm
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Its more dependant upon your roll. If your a host like me with 150+ websites it better to do whats easier for the client(pasv).

phong - Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:59 pm
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Guest ftw.

Cyan~Fire - Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:48 pm
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Yeah, obviously neither of you have any clue what you're talking about.

phong - Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:51 pm
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Cyan~Fire wrote:

Yeah, obviously neither of you have any clue what you're talking about.

Care to reiterate in detail?

You do realize that in active mode it is the server that decides what the data port will be and in passive it is the client that decides?

Unless you have a stateful firewall or want to teach all of your clients how to unblock a port you decide from their firewall then passive is the way to go.. probably why it is most common.

Then again maybe I dont know what i'm talking about.

Solo Ace - Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:21 am
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phong wrote:

Then again maybe I dont know what i'm talking about.

Are you sure?

phong wrote:

You do realize that in active mode it is the server that decides what the data port will be and in passive it is the client that decides?

In active mode the server will connect back to the client from port 20 (ftp-data), the destination port on the client's side was chosen, of course, by the client.
In passive mode port 21 is still used as control port, but for data transfers the client connects to a port number specified by the server.

phong wrote:

probably why it is most common.

The reason why passive FTP is "most common" is because server admins can't expect all of their clients will not be behind a firewall or NAT (or anything else causing a connect attempt to fail).
Active FTP is easier to setup for server admins and would be easier to secure, but making their FTPd reachable for their clients is most likely easier for them than it is for their clients to setup an active FTP transfer.

Also, why does it matter if you're a host with 150+ websites? Anyone who runs a FTP server wants to be reachable, whatever his role is.
There's no reason to give any numbers. I farted 30+ times yesterday, doesn't that make me look cool?

Anonymous - Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:52 am
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Why did you just verify everything I said?

I gave reference to numbers because if I was running an ftp server that was only going to have 1 client connecting, I would run in active because I could block just about every port on my server, telling the one client to unblock 20 or whatever data port I decide.

But once again, why the fuck did you verify everything I said?

Cyan~Fire - Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:33 pm
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Sorry, just having a bad day yesterday, excuse my yelling.

Solo Ace - Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:47 pm
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I didn't verify what you said.

What you tried to say about how active/passive works is too vague, and it works the other way around.

I guess you tried to say the same about the reason for passive FTP (don't you think it's a little badly worded, though?) but I guess you meant the stateful firewall to be on the client's side (which would be odd since the rest of what you said is from the server's point of view, though).

Anyways, whatever, not like it matters, this is completely off-topic.
I'm going to update a few Windows machines, this GRE exploit is scary (while I'm typing this one of my friend's MSN starts saying lame things to me while he tells me he got virus'd, hah).

Anonymous - Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:05 am
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Mmmkay. This dude shouldn't be hosting servers if he dosen't know the diffrence between FTP and HTTP.

FTP server == You host FILES, File Transfer Protocol.

HTTP == You host WEBPAGES, Hyper Text Transfer Protocol.

God. Dude.. If there's any list of the most incompetent webmasters, you'd be #2.

Mine GO BOOM - Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:20 am
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Kitsune! wrote:

This dude shouldn't be hosting servers if he dosen't know the diffrence between FTP and HTTP.

I host files more often on HTTP than anything else. Also, HTTP isn't what it used to be. Ignoring the whole AJAX crap, take WebDev for example. Over HTTP, you can mount a file system with it.

FTP is rarely used for file hosting anymore. And even then, it is usually for either the web administrator, the system administrator, or for hosting illegal files.

Cyan~Fire - Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:43 pm
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AJAX is cool, but it's getting way too overused. I'd probably want to go into IT if I didn't know I'd be forced into using that crap.