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Cos - Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:38 pm
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hello i seen a article by wiki ass or something, BanG, about all the different kings of bans.. and towards the end he wrote "i got involved since i developed a mac id randomizer" man, umm can i get this mac id randomizer? heh please PLease, heh i need it ;[

D1st0rt - Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:04 pm
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I would suggest not trying to evade a ban

CypherJF - Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:47 pm
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Oy. newbs.

EdTheInvincible - Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:57 pm
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just take out the video card and put it back into another slot and your problem should be solved without using any funky randomizer stuff.

Purge - Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:01 pm
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Haha.

CypherJF - Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:28 pm
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mmmm okkaaay?

SuSE - Sun Feb 20, 2005 3:14 pm
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http://catid.ssihosting.com/
http://catid.ssihosting.com/files/BanG.txt

Bak - Sun Feb 20, 2005 3:15 pm
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you can use a MERVbot to see where it gets it:

Code: Show/Hide

GetVolumeInformation("C:\\", NULL, 0, &machineID, NULL, NULL, NULL, 0);

then you look up the GetVolumeInformation system call:

Quote:

BOOL GetVolumeInformation(
LPCTSTR lpRootPathName,
LPTSTR lpVolumeNameBuffer,
DWORD nVolumeNameSize,
LPDWORD lpVolumeSerialNumber,
LPDWORD lpMaximumComponentLength,
LPDWORD lpFileSystemFlags,
LPTSTR lpFileSystemNameBuffer,
DWORD nFileSystemNameSize
);

LPDWORD lpVolumeSerialNumber is the macID:

Quote:

lpVolumeSerialNumber
[out] Pointer to a variable that receives the volume serial number. This parameter can be NULL if the serial number is not required.

Windows Me/98/95: If the queried volume is a network drive, the serial number is not returned.

Then we google how to change a volume seriel number and get a site:
http://www.brettglass.com/ttr19980206a.html

Gravitron - Sun Feb 20, 2005 5:44 pm
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MacID is the volume of drive C.
There may also be a registery key carrying it.

BanG tracks a whole of a lot more information than just your macID.
Randomizing macID will not save your pathetic ass from a ban.
Sucking up to the sysop would be easier.

CypherJF - Sun Feb 20, 2005 5:46 pm
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It does, there are 2 registry entries. But don't be tellin newbs who come here and ask such questions. They're better off at least working for the answer.

Gravitron - Sun Feb 20, 2005 5:51 pm
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Actually, bypassing BanG isn't that hard at all, so to speak.
Basically, if you're going to try and figure out all that it tracks and neutralize these factors, you are prone to failure.
However, if you can spend the cash, buy a new PC (new, entirely, nothing of the old one's hardware or registery entries), get a new IP and register under a new alias then *poof*, you're home free.

CypherJF - Sun Feb 20, 2005 5:55 pm
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Yup until they find out that's you.. lol

SuSE - Sun Feb 20, 2005 6:12 pm
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ya, but it's probably cheaper than spending the time learning the sort of stuff catid knows just to avoid a ban

of course if all you care about is software and hardware and this game, it may well be worth your time

Solo Ace - Sun Feb 20, 2005 6:41 pm
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Or you can just get offered a banfree.

D1st0rt - Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:28 pm
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Except if you get caught evading a ban don't they netban you for a couple months?

Mr Ekted - Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:33 pm
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Gravitron wrote:

...if you can spend the cash, buy a new PC (new, entirely, nothing of the old one's hardware or registery entries), get a new IP and register under a new alias then *poof*, you're home free.

Very true, but in my experience, people who get banned have a really hard time hiding their identity because most of them have extreme personalities. Even with a new computer, IP, and alias, you know who they are in a few minutes.

Phyran - Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:38 pm
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Mr Ekted wrote:

[..]

Very true, but in my experience, people who get banned have a really hard time hiding their identity because most of them have extreme personalities. Even with a new computer, IP, and alias, you know who they are in a few minutes.

the best way is not to be banned in the first place...just dont stand out

i remember my HS gym teacher said "If you want to stand out...dont use deodorant...you'll stand out alrite"

Gravitron - Mon Feb 21, 2005 2:41 am
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Well Ekted that's their problem, not mine.

Goldeye - Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:09 pm
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I was able to avoid a ban by running windows off a different drive.

Purge - Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:09 pm
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Obviously...

2dragons - Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:17 pm
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I just became aware of something interesting.

A person I know can be banned, go to another computer on his network, login with a different name and be home free.

I tested this with him, BANG page registers IP/domain/timezone matches. The names are not on ban free, nor do they have bang. And it works with any name he tries.

CypherJF - Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:42 pm
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o.o i'm confuzzled.. BanG much different than mod/smod - sysop bans

Cyan~Fire - Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:11 am
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But would he not still have the same WAN IP address?

Maverick - Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:47 am
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He would... BanG also bans on IP

... however only if you specify it?

Quote:

-! = ban all logins from IP range, new and old accounts (2+)

Cyan~Fire - Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:08 am
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That's IP range, not IP.

Solo Ace - Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:06 pm
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BanG doesn't only ban IPs, newbie.

How would other bans work if you had to specify the IP address every time, then?

Maverick - Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:17 am
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Solo Ace wrote:

BanG doesn't only ban IPs, newbie.

DUUUUUUUHHH!!!

Gravitron - Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:54 am
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If a mod uses BanG, it bans the current IP, so you may switch to a different node on the network to avoid.

However, if a sysop ban, he has the discreation to do an IP range ban and most likely often than not may indeed do so.

Cyan~Fire - Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:47 am
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Grav wrote:

a different node on the network

But not on his LAN behind a router.

Solo Ace - Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:05 pm
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Mav, wtf are you duh-ing me for?
What you said in your post was wrong, don't duh someone who's correcting you.

Gravitron - Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:06 pm
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Cyan~Fire wrote:

[..]
But not on his LAN behind a router.

I know it beats logic, but oddly enough seems so, as that this too as well.
I once got banned in EG.
Went to another PC, no ban.

Go figure.

Cyan~Fire - Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:49 pm
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Solo wrote:

What you said in your post was wrong

Actually, I think you might have misread his post.

Maverick - Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:39 am
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Sorry Solo Ace.

You might have misunderstood my post or something because your reply doesn't really lineup with my post.

I know BanG bans IP's aswell. But I believe it sometimes blocks people that only have an IP match with an existing ban.

Solo Ace - Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:15 pm
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I didn't misread anything, your sentence was just not well costructed.

Maverick wrote:

He would... BanG also bans on IP

... however only if you specify it?

Read what you exactly said, carefully.

"BanG also bans on IP, however only if you specify it?"
as I replied (well, rephrased here)
"BanG always bans on IP, wether you specify it or not (except in a few cases)".

My reply lines up with your post perfectly, in your post you just didn't say what you meant, then.

Anyway, whatever, that's not the topic of this thread.

Gravitron - Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:21 pm
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In a matter of fact, both of you are at fault.

_______________________________________
Maverick wrote:
He would... BanG also bans on IP

... however only if you specify it?
_______________________________________
If the above really IS what was said and is not out of context...

As it clearly shows, he didn't say that BanG bans only IP, he said ALSO.

And you are also wrong Solo Ace, the problem with what he said, not really thoguh since it was a question, is that BanG by default bans several things at once, including IP, so the answer to his question is no, you don't even need to specify it (or the other factors - macID, TZBias, alias, etc.).
So it's not that what he said was wrong, he was just asking.
You saying it's wrong (IE to ask a question is wrong) is wrong.

WRONG!
^_^

Move on and settle it up.

Solo Ace - Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:31 pm
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Wtf, Grav, you are wrong!
I was not wrong! I said it bans an IP (except if you tell it not to, which only higher levels can do).

He said BanG ALSO bans IPs and asked "but maybe it only does if you specify it?", I know the answer to this question would be "no", but I just told him what you said, that it bans more than the IP, and I told him that it bans an IP too.

What I said was correct, so you saying that I'm wrong is wrong.
Your post is wrong, maybe you are wrong, or is that wrong?

Conclusion:
I was right, you were wrong.

Gravitron - Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:08 pm
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He asked a question.
You said what he said is wrong.
That is to say that you said that he is wrong in asking and/or that the question is wrong.
You can't be wrong about asking a question.
It's a question.
It's inherit that you do not know the answer and/or the validity of the datum presented within the question.

He could say (read: ask) "is subspace a MMORPG with dragonfly characters that my incest'd sister made in her basement?" and there would still nothing wrong in it (well, maybe the part about the incest'd sister...

).

What you did was not answering him, or just that, what you did was trying to CORRECT him, which is to say that he is WRONG, infact you went out right and told him that he is wrong.
But he cannot be wrong since he never presented or claimed to present a fact to begin with.

Hence forth, YOU were wrong.

...narf.

Cyan~Fire - Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:56 pm
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It depends on what your definition of "is" is.

Gravitron - Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:12 am
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And so came your ineviteable ignore.

Anonymous - Sat Jul 09, 2005 9:13 pm
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Im confused now