Sigh. Yes, learn to walk using your tongue first. We'll work on the feet later.
Cyan~Fire - Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:29 pm
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Visual Basic = Harder than C++.
Basically, VB is the language to learn if you want to throw together a GUI in no time with the crappiest behind-the-scenes code ever.
CypherJF - Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:46 pm
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Vb is not harder than C++ lol
Solo Ace - Fri Jul 02, 2004 1:13 am
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[SOS]C#[/SOS]
myke - Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:03 am
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oh god no... .NET coding does everything for you besides a little bit of typing
Solo Ace - Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:21 am
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Haha, maybe that's why he likes it.
I started with C++, maybe it was smarter to start with C instead, to learn the basics first.
Now every time I have a coding problem SOS tells me to switch to C# because it wouldn't give me those problems, he says.
CypherJF - Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:02 am
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I heard that too but I don't want to be bound up by MS crap.
Dr Brain - Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:02 am
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Yah, don't use SkyNet... err, I mean .NET. You'll never get free.
I would reccomend C or C++. I'm not actually sure which is better for a newbie.
Cyan~Fire - Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:08 am
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C++ is better for a newbie. I've found that when I started coding, I used iostreams and classes and blah blah blah, but now I'm gradually going C. (I still do like some of C++'s features though.)
Mine GO BOOM - Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:57 am
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I personally believe C is better to learn at than C++. As long as you don't plan on wanting to make the next Unreal game your first time around, C will teach you much better.
Plus, it forces you to learn gets, scanf, prinf, and others that are very valuable to know. Even when I had crappy classes, I always used those instead of cin/cout, which is only used in beginner's programs.
Solo Ace - Fri Jul 02, 2004 1:11 pm
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I disagree with Cyan (n0b) and agree with MGB, learning the basics gets you a lot further than starting with all the extras.
I regret I started with C++, now I feel like a confused coding newbie instead of just a coding newbie.
Mine GO BOOM - Fri Jul 02, 2004 1:37 pm
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Ha, I learned C by imitated Ghost Ship. I didn't even have a compiler at the time, I just edited Ghost Ship's bot source for Pro League at the time, send him the files, and HE compiled it and returned the errors. Now thats truly learning by trial and error.
Of course, for the past two years, I learned Perl the same way, but at least I had found ActiveState's perl debugger program. So learning C the same way wasn't hard, since I already understood some of the basics like ; are very important.
Damn you Alex, your the reason my coding skills started out like shit. But then again, thanks for introducing me to C. All is forgiven.
This post was dedicated to Ekted, so he has a better understanding of why I code like I do.
Mr Ekted - Fri Jul 02, 2004 2:36 pm
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If you intend to be serious about programming, you should start with C. Learning VB or C++ will get you up and going faster, but then you will need to "start over" to do anything significant. As you get better with C, you will naturally need to understand ASM for debugging purposes.
Solo Ace - Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:29 pm
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That's right, I have to start over now to understand what I'm actually doing.
Smong - Sat Jul 03, 2004 5:42 pm
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I think this link might be useful:
http://vergil.chemistry.gatech.edu/resources/programming/c-tutorial/toc.html
D1st0rt - Sat Jul 03, 2004 11:06 pm
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this is a good all-purpose reference for more than just C programming (I use it for physics):
http://www.teicontrols.com/notes/
a_bug - Fri Jul 09, 2004 3:01 am
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i am now gonna take up c coding, and uhhh what do i put all this coding in, i mean i make html in like a .html. so where can i get a compiler and who can tell me where i put all this coding? thanks
-a_bug
50% Packetloss - Fri Jul 09, 2004 3:17 am
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You can use many different compilers, but the main one for windows systems is Microsoft Visual Studios or Visual C++. Youll first need to learn how to code, pick up a book and teach yourself. HTML is nothing like C++, html is a scripting language that is not translated into computer language, C code is translated into op codes that a microprocessor can understand. Just look for "c++ compiler" on google, and all C++ compilers support C
Smong - Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:01 am
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I save my source to .c and .h files. A free C/C++ compiler for windows is MinGW, you can use the Dev-C++ IDE with it.
Blindmonkey21 - Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:27 am
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All I know is that my first language was Java and I sucked at that REALLY bad. (I don't know anything past for loops) At that point I gave up programming and now I just let other people do my work for me $$$
Sorry just had to put in my 2 cents
a_bug - Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:18 pm
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thanks guys, and blind, if u keep on with ur 2 cents posting ur gonna get banned, just a word of caution. im installing mingw now. so will this let me write code in it or while it just compile already written files?
Mr Ekted - Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:46 pm
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Source code is just text. You can use notepad, or even a word processor if you like. If MingW is a complete development system, it may have it's own text editor, but it's not necessary.
Dustpuppy - Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:28 pm
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