Why didnt u tell me u got a zone, i woulda helped... geez!! Ok anyway... like sum1 said, try messing around with the port #. Whenever i start up the billing and the subgame, it's all connected and stuff, but it's still red at the continuum window, so what i do is go to the zones list, remove my zone from it, then download a new list and add my zone to it. Works every time! I dunno why tf does it get green with some ping number after i do this, but without it - it doesnt.