L.C. - Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:45 am
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Would definitely be nice if he did release his bot as open source. O_o I'm sure someone else would love to toy around with his code and perhaps release a patch or two of improvements to his bot.
Underlord - Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:04 pm
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we'd definitely use this in chaos zone and powerball if i had source to play around with it. ive coded part of an ai bot, it just takes so many hours and im not awesome fast at the trig involved. why wont bjork release source? can you ask him? it'd help us a lot.
L.C. - Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:34 pm
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I have already sent Bjorn a private message and an e-mail just yesterday (or earlier today, can't remember now). I am hoping that he will respond. I tried this bot in BlueT Jackpot SVS both online (a few hardcore tough tanker bots) and through LAN with my brothers (18 to 36 bots, 9 spawns per core with each core being of different difficulty as far as health per spawn goes [healths 64 to 256 to make it easy on my 7/8 year old brother]) and was found fun.
Originally I wanted to launch a duplicate of Jackpot SVS where you had at least 128 AI bots evenly spread out across the map, either free for all, free for all with human teaming allowed, co-op (humans versus AI), or normal mixed 2-freq flagging deathmatch. The problem was though that the AI uses way too much RAM, so I hit my own 3.25GB limit before I even got to 70 some spawns.
What I did find though is that if you have ~64 AI bots (Bjorn's) in one arena with plenty of space, and they all use the same settings, you will not see very many kills (or any at all) because the offensive/aggressive and defensive settings cancel each other out. If I had a dedicated server with 8 GB of RAM, I could probably hit up to 128+ AI bots in one arena.
But I do not have those kinds of resources.
EDIT :: ASSS would be a perfect solution for clustered AI bot hosting. I just wish the programmers in this community would just understand what I say about it and make a dumbed down, accurate and precise Subgame clone with a few extra features (such as proper and decent support for Peering, being able to define multiple BotIP/ServerIP's in server.ini, extended capability/limits of zone description text, AS3 level objects, faster download/upload speeds, being able to recycle the zone/arena without booting everyone, getting rid of the non-SSC message/popping up registration form, and simply the fact that the server software is up-to-date, stable and fresh, and is both Win32 and Linux compatible). It would be just like or as if PriitK released a major update for Continuum with plenty of new features, as well as an update to Subgame2 to accommodate for those new features. It wouldn't be a lost cause or waste of time at all to make a version of AS3 like this; Subgame2 would no longer have to be used just like how Subspace v1.34 is no longer needed or used [because Continuum overtook the old client successfully, maturely, and professionally]. This must also happen with Subgame2 through AS3 if this community wants to get noticeably ahead.
Lynx - Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:34 pm
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The way asss is currently laid out is best for what it provides. If you want simplicity, then subgame is great - but you'll lack functionality. I think instead of asking developers to change asss, you should try to document it more. The asss user guide isn't exactly great, and there's not much newb friendly information out there for people to use to understand asss.
Furthermore, try and get people out of the Wndows comfort zone, and into learning more Linux.
Dr Brain - Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:36 am
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