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Bak - Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:06 am
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anyone else trying this? It seems to work well so far, even imported my quick shortcuts and passwords from firefox (slight form bug while typing this message though, maybe I spoke too soon). I do miss my mouse gestures and plugins.
blue monday - Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:28 am
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Chrome spinnin'? I don't like Chrome.
L.C. - Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:29 am
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No, the new browser called Google Chrome.

http://www.google.com/chrome

I tried it. I thought it was ok. I didn't like how GoogleUpdate.exe was running though, and I sort of miss Adblock Plus, Filterset.G, and Element Hider from Firefox. ;o

I like the simplistic, smooth GUI design and skinning. icon_smile.gif It's pretty professional.

Did you see the webpage "about:memory" too? tongue.gif
Hakaku - Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:45 am
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What I thought was ironic was when I went to their website and looked at their features page, and about three quarters of their videos, which also happened to be hosted on Youtube, said that they were removed. Granted Google fixed it after an hour.
k0zy - Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:48 pm
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I tried it...
It's fast, because of webkit.

But coming from Opera, it just doesn't feel very complete yet.

I was suprised that the first thing they ask after starting it for the first time, is if you want to use a diffrent search engine.
CypherJF - Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:59 pm
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i managed to crash chrome going to myspace; had some graphic render issue with a bitmap from what i gathered... so much for crash-resistant tabs huh?
Samapico - Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:29 pm
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well, they never said the tabs were crash-resistant, it just shouldn't crash all your other tabs... did it? ?.o
Maverick - Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:53 am
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I'm concerned about the GoogleUpdate.exe process that is running in the background and requests access to the internet every ~5 minutes.

Seems like it's some service of Google to check for updated software. ( http://groups.google.com/group/lively-help-how-do-i/browse_thread/thread/2aa4acb579e29b54/4b08db4e4a8ba17b?lnk=raot )

EDIT: You can install Google Chrome without GoogleUpdate.exe by doing an offline installation, this might be a good idea.
rootbear75 - Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:07 am
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Maverick wrote:
I'm concerned about the GoogleUpdate.exe process that is running in the background and requests access to the internet every ~5 minutes.

Seems like it's some service of Google to check for updated software. ( http://groups.google.com/group/lively-help-how-do-i/browse_thread/thread/2aa4acb579e29b54/4b08db4e4a8ba17b?lnk=raot )

EDIT: You can install Google Chrome without GoogleUpdate.exe by doing an offline installation, this might be a good idea.

The only problem with that offline install site, you have to register to get it. Can anyone upload it to a site that doesnt require registration????

EDIT: Nevermind: Apparently im too blind to see the big letters "Click here to download"
Anonymous - Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:27 pm
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Meh.
I've seen their comic presentation.
To me, it doesn't seem all that awesome or innovative.
If anything, this is just one more Google move to "do no evil" while taking over the world from the side.
Animate Dreams - Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:33 pm
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I tried out chrome, but it lags my computer. I guess it's fast compared to Firefox's bloat, but it's still very low on the efficiency scale. Plus, it's not near as customizable as Firefox or Opera or Maxthon or any other comparable browser. So it really doesn't have anything to offer me, except trendiness. But I've noticed a lot of people citing speed as a reason for switching to Chrome. Even though there are already faster, more customizable browsers available. So if they had such an issue with speed, why were they using Firefox in the first place? I guess it just took another trendy browser to pull them off of their current trendy browser. I'll keep up with Chrome, since I expect it to get a lot better now that people are using it, and it IS open source, but I just tested my own browser(Maxthon) against it. I already had Maxthon open with over 20 tabs, on my regular browsing, and it took up 40mb RAM. I watched the process for a while, and it fluctuated between 15MB and 60MB as I browsed, but for the most part, it stayed under 40MB. And it never went over 5% CPU usage. Chrome, with 0 plugins and 1 tab on the startup page, took up 40MB. With a few tabs open, it opened new processes. The highest was 40MB, but if I added them all in together, it was around 70MB. I dunno if you can just add like that and get the correct amount, though. Chrome is cool, I guess, but right now it's just not any faster or more efficient for me, so using it would just make me feel like a Mac user. I'm not going to use it just because it's trendy.

I DO really like the things they're trying to do. Like trying to make it more efficient as you use more tabs, and the task manager giving you reports on each tab's and each plugin's memory usage. But why are they using Webkit, and why are they making things like the Javascript interpreter from scratch? I don't really know anything about that kind of stuff, so for all I know, it actually is a good idea... but, to me, it just sounds like the same things Microsoft did with Vista that turned out to be a mistake.

Also. Another area I don't know about... but aren't "threads" basically sub-processes that provide all the benefits of running separate processes? So Chrome could just give each tab its own thread instead of its own process, which would mean Chrome wouldn't spam my task manager's process list? That really bothers me. -.-
Cheese - Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:58 pm
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that might be the 'crash protection'.

if it were thread based, when one thread failed, the entire process would closed.

by being process based, when one crashes, the others are left standing.
Samapico - Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:50 pm
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yeah, read http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/
CypherJF - Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:37 pm
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Samapico wrote:
well, they never said the tabs were crash-resistant, it just shouldn't crash all your other tabs... did it? ?.o


The whole app crashed; so yeah, it affected the other tabs. icon_wink.gif
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