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Chambahs - Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:01 pm
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I was bored and I asked everyone what the highest of the HIGHEST level of math was, and nobody knew, so searched and got this answer:

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Usually differential equations, partial differential equations, multiple integrals, and/ or linear algebra. 3D surface descriptions, coordinate transforms, Fourier transforms, and Zernike fits are cool too. Polynomial expansion series get pretty good also. Don't forget advanced statistical processes. These are very powerful.


Anyone agree/disagree? Add to the list? lol

(specifically waiting for someone like brain, mgb, bak or someone to answer this one)

EDIT: Funny:

D1st0rt - Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:30 pm
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Chambahs wrote:
differential equations, partial differential equations, multiple integrals, and/ or linear algebra.

Definitely not, as all undergraduate engineering students take all of these.

The hardest math possible is really abstract, requires one or more PhD's and is what the crazy guys in Russia get awards for. Ever seen A Beautiful Mind? That kind of stuff.
Dr Brain - Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:53 pm
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Differential equations, partial differential equations, linear equations, multiple integration, linear algebra, coordinate transforms and Fourier transforms are all taught in a standard undergrad electrical engineering course.

Polynomial expansions aren't anything new or complicated either. Don't happen to know what Zernike fits are, but if the rest of the list is anything to go by, it's probably easy.

You want hard? Prove the Riemann zeta-hypothesis.
SamHughes - Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:52 pm
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There's no such thing as "highest" level of math. There are many areas of research in mathematics. There's no meaningful way to rank all of them in difficulty. But I'll give you a few rankings of my own. Euclidean geometry is much more difficult than anything you've mentioned so far. What you've listed are straightforward subjects that only look scary.
Default - Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:58 am
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Einstein 2 level maths for your age? Eeeks very complex grr... icon_surprised.gif

Chambahs wrote:
I was bored and I asked everyone what the highest of the HIGHEST level of math was, and nobody knew, so searched and got this answer:

Best Answer - Chosen By Voters
Usually differential equations, partial differential equations, multiple integrals, and/ or linear algebra. 3D surface descriptions, coordinate transforms, Fourier transforms, and Zernike fits are cool too. Polynomial expansion series get pretty good also. Don't forget advanced statistical processes. These are very powerful.


Anyone agree/disagree? Add to the list? lol

(specifically waiting for someone like brain, mgb, bak or someone to answer this one)

EDIT: Funny:

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Dr Brain - Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:44 am
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SamHughes wrote:
There's no such thing as "highest" level of math. There are many areas of research in mathematics. There's no meaningful way to rank all of them in difficulty. But I'll give you a few rankings of my own. Euclidean geometry is much more difficult than anything you've mentioned so far. What you've listed are straightforward subjects that only look scary.


I hope you mean non-euclidean geometry.
BDwinsAlt - Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:24 am
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I'm guessing Algebra 2 with Trig is nothing then. icon_confused.gif
SamHughes - Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:03 am
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No, I mean Euclidean geometry.
Default - Sun Mar 04, 2007 5:53 am
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Oh lol...
Dr Brain - Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:12 pm
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SamHughes wrote:
No, I mean Euclidean geometry.


The stuff everyone learned in 7th grade?
SamHughes - Sun Mar 04, 2007 5:12 pm
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Yes.

If you think it's easy, find on your own a way to construct a 14-gon using nothing but a straightedge and a compass.
D1st0rt - Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:45 pm
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The process to that can easily be understood by many people, however. Math topics where most people will never be able to grasp the fundamentals are still harder.
Dr Brain - Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:11 am
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SamHughes wrote:
Yes.

If you think it's easy, find on your own a way to construct a 14-gon using nothing but a straightedge and a compass.


It's provably impossible to construct a regular 14 sided figure using Galois theory. A 15 sided one IS possible, though.
SamHughes - Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:17 pm
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Ah, I meant 17. Sorry.
k0zy - Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:55 pm
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Chambahs wrote:
Usually differential equations, partial differential equations, multiple integrals, and/ or linear algebra. 3D surface descriptions, coordinate transforms, Fourier transforms, and Zernike fits are cool too. Polynomial expansion series get pretty good also. Don't forget advanced statistical processes.


There has to be something harder... I learned most of these, and I'm studying computer science.
rootbear75 - Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:30 am
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and here i am thinking AP Calc AB is hard.... icon_confused.gif
Anonymous - Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:59 am
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rootbear, I'm curious, does your calc class focus on proofs at all?
Blocks - Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:23 pm
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Solving differential equations isn't so much hard as it is tiresome work with lots of opportunities for error, which is why modern software packages are so nice. Here's a particularly grungy part of a problem from my homework a couple weeks ago. I got fed up at the end and ran out of space, so I gave up. Prospective engineers, this may be what you have to look forward to. Sigh ... I remember when math actually had numbers.

Cyan~Fire - Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:12 pm
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I feel your pain. I hope the differential equations class I'm taking right now doesn't go that far.
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