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Quan Chi2 - Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:33 am
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To the people that know the internet well, and to the people who know a lot about electrical engineering (anything within within or near the focus of those topics):

Will we be able to hack cars? And when I say hack, I mean have cars do things they weren't supposed to do in the first place. Im referring to the Hybrids. A slot of stuff in the hybrids are electric, including the engine. Im not saying there aren't computers in cars already, but Im thinking about the future, when most(if not all) cars will be hybrids.

The image that sparked this question was the power button on the dashboard of a hybrid(while watching the a documentary on the discovery channel). It made me think of computers.

http://john1701a.com/prius/photos/Prius_Dashboard_AtNight.jpg (MGB: Don't leech images)

Thats just one.

So I was thinking - since people figured out how to modify things like PSPs, iPods, Operating systems etc... then do you think some day people will be using thier own software to modify hardware in hybrids?

I think Im going overboard with it, but its just another thought of mine.

Doc Flabby - Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:26 am
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Some new cars are now stolen using a laptop rather stealing the keys as its easier.

Assassin2684 - Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:21 am
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I dont see how you would get enjoyment out of steeling a car.

Smong - Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:32 am
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There's a film called 'Gone in 60 seconds' that's about stealing cars.

Maurauth - Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:33 am
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You could do that now, if you found some way to connect into the cars system you could do stuff like altering the fuel injection.

i88gerbils - Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:35 am
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Some people have already hacked thru keyless entry systems so I guess that's a start.

Doc Flabby - Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:55 am
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Smong wrote:

There's a film called 'Gone in 60 seconds' that's about stealing cars.

I've seen that film, but they are newbs now lol.

You can't hack the radio frequencies like that anymore as they got wise to it use rolling codes

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You could do that now, if you found some way to connect into the cars system you could do stuff like altering the fuel injection.

Thats possible the manufactures know how to do it. It just getting hold of the "black book" or service engineers guide would be the difficult part. Using the same guide would basically help u steal them too so they arnt very easy to get hold of. In new cars the computer basically controls everything.

Assassin2684 - Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:01 am
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Yup pretty much. But dont you think they have ways to stop such acts? And yet again, whats the point in hacking cars because im sure they could trace your ass so easly and you would go to jail for multiple things.

Doc Flabby - Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:05 pm
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No point unless you have the connections to get rid of the car as a professional thief would have. Remember they only catch the dumb criminals. Quite a few new cars now have bonnet alarms to try to prevent this kind of theft.

People have been hacking (in the general sence of the word) cars pretty much since there were invented i just see this as something new to play about with...

The Apache - Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:15 pm
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Quite a sad thought, Quan.

Leave the internet...

K' - Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:39 pm
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Well, since almost all cars nowdays come with an onboard computer.
As to make cars do things they weren't initially meant to...install the proper wiring onto the key areas and then the appropriate software/programming onto the onboard computer, perhaps install a form of remote radio communication and you have yourself a ghost car.
As for hacking...if enough control over the vehicle be handed over to the computers and their software will be sophisticated enough as well as preferably offer some kind of an API to the outside, then yes, the potential be definitely there.

Confess - Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:04 pm
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Stfu Apache. No one cares about you or what you say. All you are is some child who thinks he is "All that" because he post on a forum. Its a game, and you make it a competition. We are here for fun, you turn it into a flame. Take your head out of your ass and see the light.

The Apache - Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:20 pm
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Confess wrote:

I guess the same could be said for you. By the way, it was an opinion/sugestion.
Furthermore, take a look at the screen once in a while. This is Trash Talk, I can say whatever I want to say. So maybe you should be doing less typing.

Also,

Confess wrote:

"Hi, Im apache, I get my fun by posting pointless crap and trying to turn everything into a flame. I think im really cool cause I can post on a forum and make myself look like an ass."

Isn't that flaming?

Cyan~Fire - Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:56 pm
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St Paul wrote:

but in humility consider others better than yourselves

Purge - Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:41 pm
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Confess, you seem more of a hypocrite rather than a "holy person" as you say you are.

Confess - Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:38 am
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Did I say that I do not consider myself lower then others? I am stating that he needs to stop his pointless badgering. 9/10 of his post says something to the degree of "good, leave, die". I cannot bear it any longer. If I had the right to ban him, I would have done it the day he joined.

Ever since he "Owned OF", he has had this attitude. Lemme tell ya something bub. You're what, 14? What gives you any kind of right to talk to someone who is older, wiser, stronger, and more mature than your little brain could ever comprehend? I feel sorry for you Apache. I pitty you.
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Purge: I have never said that I was a holy person. Not once. I consider myself to be one of the most sinful people on the planet, and there are billions of people on the planet.

I only know of one "Holy" person, and that is Jesus Christ. If you consider someone to be "holy", then you are mistaken.
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Anyways, my rant is over.
Good day.

K' - Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:33 am
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A flaming contest? Lets rumble, dude.

*Chain Drive*

Contempt+ - Tue Jul 18, 2006 9:13 am
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Confess wrote:

If I had the right to ban him, I would have done it the day he joined.
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You're what, 14? What gives you any kind of right to talk to someone who is older, wiser, stronger, and more mature than your little brain could ever comprehend?

I'm now beginning to think that Confess is Grav.

Doc Flabby - Tue Jul 18, 2006 9:36 am
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eep scary i live near high wycombe.

The Apache - Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:09 pm
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Confess wrote:

Okay, I would like you to find all my posts/topics (well, at least 90% of them!) that has the degree of "good, leave, die". You can't bear it? Well there is a ignore button you fucking ignoramus.

Confess wrote:

Ever since he "Owned OF", he has had this attitude. Lemme tell ya something bub. You're what, 14? What gives you any kind of right to talk to someone who is older, wiser, stronger, and more mature than your little brain could ever comprehend? I feel sorry for you Apache. I pitty you.

What hell is OF? Omega Fire? Listen here you bible-bashing ignorant piece of shit; Age doesn't matter one bit on the internet, I can talk shit or otherwise to say to anyone I want to.
I don't need some kind of "permission" to talk shit to people like you. (You meaning... Stupid)

From what you quote from the Bible, and how you claim to be the most sinful person on the internet - I actually pity you

Confess wrote:

Purge: I have never said that I was a holy person. Not once. I consider myself to be one of the most sinful people on the planet, and there are billions of people on the planet.

Okay okay, whatever Confess. Most sinful person? You are so stupid trying to argue from that point you know.

Confess wrote:

I only know of one "Holy" person, and that is Jesus Christ. If you consider someone to be "holy", then you are mistaken.

Anyways, my rant is over.
Good day!

Don't start with your Christianity on here stupid, you'll only make yourself look more stupid than you already do.

Animate Dreams - Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:15 pm
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Um. For seeming to quote the Bible so much... did you miss the part where it said Jesus's followers are holy? Well, actually, that's pretty much the whole New Testament. I think you need to re-read that, and look up a definition of "holy".

Confess - Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:01 pm
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Apache, also know as lp_street_faggot and newb, same person that has been and still will be disliked for his actions, retardness, and imcompacity to do anything other then use words such as "You're stupid" "Leave this game" etc. Commonly found on the internet on the message boards known as MGBF and SSForum. Disliked by more then 7/10 of the people on both boards.

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Quite a sad thought, Quan.

Leave the internet...

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Just one of the several kinds of post he has made, over and over again, with less then 10 words directing to the "leave, die, fuck off".

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Did your dad anally rape you, then call you stupid the rest of your life?

Dr Brain - Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:02 pm
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Confess wrote:

Disliked by more then 7/10 of the people on both boards.

Despite what you may belive, you don't make up 70% of the forum community.

Confess - Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:03 pm
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I didnt say I was.

Contempt+ - Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:21 pm
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Then where did you get 70% from?

Muskrat - Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:02 pm
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I think the Old Testament is really interesting.

N00bTestament4brainwash

Cyan~Fire - Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:04 pm
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Stop giving Christianity a bad name, Confess. I mean it, you're being retarded.

And speaking of the Old Testament, here's my favorite passage:

Micah (in chapter 6, verses 7-8) wrote:

Will the Lord be pleased with thousands of rams, with ten thousand rivers of oil? Shall I offer my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul? He has showed you, O man, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.

So you folks that say that the OT and NT are contradictory, shove it.

Muskrat - Wed Jul 19, 2006 12:20 am
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It's only natural for God to change from vindictive, jealous, and easily angered to gentle and forgiving as a wandering people find a place to settle.

Ecclesiastes is my favorite.

Animate Dreams - Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:04 am
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Lol, Cyan, I don't necessarily believe he changed, but I do believe the OT is misinterpreted. What you're talking about is from the book of the 12, though, which are the prophets. The idea of God being the angry and destructive and vengeful god comes from Deuteronomistic law, which I personally think is all BS.

K' - Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:46 am
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Cyan~Fire wrote:

And speaking of the Old Testament, here's my favorite passage:
[..]

Weird Christians...

Smong - Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:15 am
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Giant flame thread!

Animate Dreams - Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:21 am
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Woah, I tried to highlight your weird flamer smiley, Smong... as I did, the flame retreated at the same time, and it looked like I was pushing the fire back... I felt like God. O_o

The Apache - Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:11 pm
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Confess wrote:

Just about everyone knows who I am and what alias I use, so you fail trying to reveal my identity?

Sorry, but you are so incorrect stating that I am retarded, saying that my vocabulary is nothing but a few sentences? Gee, aren't you the smart one! Once again Confess, you seem to fail at flaming.

Also, where did 70% and 90% come from exactly?

Confess wrote:

Just one of the several kinds of post he has made, over and over again, with less then 10 words directing to the "leave, die, fuck off".

Okay, maybe you are taking this too far? You have stated the same shit over and over again; No one cares Confess, because most people know I don't always type like that here.

Confess wrote:

Did your dad anally rape you, then call you stupid the rest of your life?

Notice the hypocrisy Confess.

K' - Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:42 pm
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I feel like eating Muskrat (burgers banner).

Animate Dreams - Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:55 pm
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Yeah, I know... I told him the other day he should take it down... I go here while I'm at work, when I can't eat whenever I want to, and he makes me really want a burger. :'(

Quan Chi2 - Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:39 am
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How come this turned into a flame thread?

Chambahs - Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:48 am
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Because its in trash talk.

The Apache - Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:51 am
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In the end, you've got to decide which is better:

A flame topic (with Confess) or a regular geeky topic about hacking cars.

Quan Chi2 - Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:41 pm
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Well I was hoping for 90% of the discussion to be about the main topic. Something inside me told me this would become a flame topic though.

So, nevermind.

Purge - Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:57 pm
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How many subjects did you fail this year, Quan?

Muskrat - Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:06 pm
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Quan Chi2 wrote:

Well I was hoping for 90%....

Math...

Quan Chi2 wrote:

Something inside me told me....

Divination...

Quan Chi2 wrote:

So, nevermind.

and Debate.

Jk, just wanted to make an HP reference.

xsp0rtsfanx - Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:39 pm
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the amount of effort that probably took you lol

Animate Dreams - Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:44 am
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Sorry, but a much better Harry Potter reference can be found here: http://quotes.ssforum.net/index.php?1324 . Yeah, I don't know how to do the fancy links like you guys.

Man, that quote always makes me laugh... though you really have to know Doomfest for it to be that funny, I suppose.

Quan Chi2 - Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:52 am
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Muskrat wrote:

[..]

Quan Chi2 wrote:
Well I was hoping for 90%....
Math...

Quan Chi2 wrote:
Something inside me told me....
Divination...

Quan Chi2 wrote:
So, nevermind.
and Debate.

lolol that gave me a good laugh. rofl