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Mine GO BOOM - Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:26 pm
Post subject: Free Virtualization
There are tons of free virtualization applications out now, with Microsoft throwing in their software for free as of today. Now is a great time to get your hands on one and start playing around in a Linux environment without having to reboot or fiddle with hard drives.


So, what should you as a user do? Download VMware Player and one of their prebuilt images and go give Linux a try. While their, start up ASSS and run it in the environment it was designed for. Next, download Virtual PC and setup a virtual machine to run IE in, so you can go to all those porn sites and not have to worry about viruses anymore or fighting over who has 4+ computers to share. (I have 8 in my room and two servers running in the basement. Granted, of those 8, I only use 3 at least once a week and actually plugged in.)
Chambahs - Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:42 am
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Lamens terms on what this is please :-p
Maverick - Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:04 am
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Nice post MGB. I will definately check out Microsoft Virtual PC to see if it's any better then VMWare. Probably not, but it's worth the try.

What I dislike about VMWare that it has such impact on your system: (Don't know if other virtualization software also has this.) It creates extra connections and I have had problems with all kind of network/dns related problems because of this. (Running on WinXP)
Maybe I just don't understand the solutions VMWare provides to have your image connect to the network but it should be made somewhat easier and user friendly imo.

MGB, what linux image would you recommend for someone who is quite new to Linux but wants to use it for a server environment in an image and wants to learn how to use Linux?
Chambahs - Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:16 am
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Gee, thanks for the translation mmav icon_razz.gif
SpecShip - Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:24 am
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Cham...you're making it too easy, so I'll pass.

Thanks Murphy, this is some great information.
I suppose the OS/Commander-esque type programs are coming to an end.


Wait...no bluetooth image? WAH! ;P

Mine GO BOOM wrote:
Next, download Virtual PC and setup a virtual machine to run IE in, so you can go to all those porn sites...

Don't you mean so you can play SubSpace on the ASSS you ran over the at linux virtual machine?
Maverick - Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:41 am
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Chambahs,
Read & Learn icon_smile.gif
BDwinsAlt - Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:55 am
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Well I use VMWare Workstation. Anything that cost money you can get for free. Weather it be very cool friends or a nice website. Very nice stuff MGB. Thanks for the post.
SpecShip - Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:13 am
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BDwinsAlt wrote:
Anything that cost money you can get for free.

Meh, no challenge, I pass...
Mine GO BOOM - Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:38 am
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Maverick wrote:
MGB, what linux image would you recommend for someone who is quite new to Linux but wants to use it for a server environment in an image and wants to learn how to use Linux?

Go for anything Debian based. Gentoo is great, but most people don't give it the time needed to learn it (aka, they give up installing the kernel or at another step).

Since you want for a server, Debian itself is great. Or if you want, Ubuntu is another option to install (get the server install over their desktop iso). Either way, using apt-get to install apache/sql/etc is very simple and sets up most items in a nice way. I choose to go with Ubuntu for this server over Debian, mostly due to the fact that Ubuntu has a ton of money backing it and the current release, Dapper Drake, has LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP) support right out of the installation and is scheduled for Long Term Support, meaning when they release the next couple of versions, you don't need to upgrade your system as they will backport security fixes for a long time. Thus, the stability is there for servers.

For home servers, Gentoo is the way to go. Emerge is, in my opinion, one of the best and strongest tools out there. And Gentoo's package world contains everything imaginable. And if it doesn't, generally someone made an ebuild for it for a package overlay, or you could make your own within a couple of minutes.
Maverick - Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:08 pm
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Thanks, Gentoo it is then icon_smile.gif
I have heard much about Ubuntu, maybe I will take a peek at that first.
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