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Anonymous - Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:14 am
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What is the BEST internet protection out there? I have Norton Personal firewall (pathetic), and Windows XP Firewall (never had any blocks from), and Yahoo Yahoo protetion w/antispy/virus, and pop up blocker.

Is there any better internet secutity prog's out there today you would recomend?

Mr Ekted - Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:01 am
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Hardware router/firewall
ZoneAlarm
Firefox
AdAware
SpyBot
HiJackThis
Anti-Virus (your choice)

phong - Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:02 am
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run linux with every port blocked.

Chambahs - Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:39 am
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I have Kaspersky AV, Zone Alarm, Spybot S&D, and Ad Aware, and i use TuneUp Utilities 2004 for misc things

Donkano - Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:41 am
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Mr Ekted wrote:

Hardware router/firewall
ZoneAlarm
Firefox
AdAware
SpyBot
HiJackThis
Anti-Virus (your choice)

Having 2 anti-viruses is as good as having none. They will conflict.

ZoneAlarm is an anti-virus.

Chambahs - Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:44 am
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zone alarm is a firewall...

Donkano - Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:46 am
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I thought it was an anti-virus and a firewall in 1 program. That is what most of the AV's out there are like.

Mr Ekted - Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:03 am
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Newer version have some AV, but I only use an older firewall-only version.

Default - Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:21 am
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I am using Panda Platinum Internet Security.

newb - Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:39 pm
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Default wrote:

I am using Panda Platinum Internet Security.

Which constantly bugs you about meaningless registration for new updates and won't leave you the fuck alone.

I do not recommend Panda Anti-Virus, take it from someone who knows.

Muskrat - Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:44 pm
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The firewall part(ZoneAlarm) is the only free part of the zone labs internet security software. I use ZoneAlarm and I like its setup.

Cyan~Fire - Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:35 pm
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ZoneAlarm is nice, but it's kinda pointless if you have a hardware firewall like a router. Sure, it's nice to check outgoing connections, but I take care of those with spyware checkers.

Mr Ekted - Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:19 pm
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Cyan~Fire wrote:

ZoneAlarm is nice, but it's kinda pointless if you have a hardware firewall like a router. Sure, it's nice to check outgoing connections, but I take care of those with spyware checkers.

A hardware firewall doesn't have a clue what aps are trying to connect out. It's not enough to "allow port 80" when you don't know what apps may try to use it.

Quan Chi2 - Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:41 pm
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SpySweeper is always nice.
Ad-Aware is.
Kaspersky is very nice.
Spybot S&D is nice.

There are many tools you can find at http://google.com/ and http://astalavista.box.sk/

Cyan~Fire - Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:59 pm
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Did you even read my second sentence, Ekted?

If you're going to argue with me, argue with that because I already said what you said.

Muskrat - Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:04 am
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Maybe he was just stoned.

Gus. - Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:41 am
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ZoneAlarm made my PC crash and i was spammed with those "report this crash to microsoft" things. I think it was my fault because i got carried away with its power and disabled shit that i didnt know what it did. I have uninstalled that though. (this all happened today lol)

Mr Ekted - Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:10 am
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Cyan~Fire wrote:

Did you even read my second sentence, Ekted?

If you're going to argue with me, argue with that because I already said what you said.

Spyware checkers aren't enough. There are legitimate apps that connect out that I don't want connecting out. With ZA I can allow/deny on a per-instance basis.

Cyan~Fire - Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:09 pm
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Legitimate apps that you don't want connecting out? Like what?

Solo Ace - Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:36 pm
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Like Windows Media Player (which I use for mms streams).
Yeah, tell me to use another MP, I won't though.

The only MP with a good implementation of that protocol with a bunch of nice audio features is Windows Media Player.
It keeps checking for updates though, which I dislike (it can't be turned off).
I blocked the updating process.

Also, instead of filtering website content, you could just block their host.
I hate danasoft.com, for example, with their crappy spyware signatures.

I exactly get what Ek means. My hardware firewall and my Linux box are nice for authorizing traffic on a low level (IP), but for stuff like this I prefer application-level.

Cyan~Fire - Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:36 pm
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Well, I'm not saying that there's no reason for it at all, but I guess I'd just rather not have some daemon running all the time. I use about 128MB of my 256MB of RAM normally, and I like to keep it that way.

And I use MP occasionally, but version 6 or something before it got obtrusive. And I actually thought you recommended MPC on this board somewhere.

Mr Ekted - Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:51 pm
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My ZA uses 4MB of memory, and after running for 24 hours straight has used 35 seconds of CPU.

Swift - Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:40 am
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I use BullGuard

A/V (Updated 4 or 5 times a day)
F/W
Spam Filter
BackUp

And it is all in one. Never had problems with it ever and it's kept my system secure for the year and 2 months I've used it.

SpecShip - Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:09 am
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I use:
ZoneAlarm, The Cleaner, ProcessGuard, Annonymizer, eSafe internal software firewall, checkpoint router hardware+software firewall, etc. measures.
All liscenced - full software.
Used to have norton AV, but it kept having problems and misperforming.
ZA's firewall/AV system seem to function better.

Mr Ekted - Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:30 am
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Did you all know that ZoneAlarm connects back directly to ZoneLabs to do reverse DNS for every IP it is resolving, and that ZoneLabs records and SELLS this info? I have all the host names they use for this blocked in my hosts file. :/

wEaViL - Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:34 am
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and thats why I dont use zonealarm

Contempt+ - Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:20 pm
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I don't use anything other than FireFox.

Cyan~Fire - Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:56 pm
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Not a text editor? No computer games? Wow, Contempt.

But, ummm, speaking out of both sides of your mouth, Ekted?

newb - Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:36 pm
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Contempt+ wrote:

I don't use anything other than FireFox.

What's wrong with Opera?

SpecShip - Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:02 pm
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You can't list a browser under Internet Protection.
Stupid.

Muskrat - Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:04 pm
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Although if he had said "I use FireFox correctly" he would be taking the biggest step towards being safe.

SpecShip - Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:08 pm
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I use IE correctly.
I haven't had troubles coming from IE.

Contempt+ - Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:35 pm
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Eh. I meant for protection. And I think the only computer game I have on my computer is Continuum.

Donkano - Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:59 pm
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Contempt+ wrote:

Eh. I meant for protection. And I think the only computer game I have on my computer is Continuum.

Switching internet browser does not enhance your security the least bit. If you used FireFox on Linux I could understand being secure. However, using no form of security on Windows means that someone could send you the infamous SubSeven back-door and then they got nearly complete control of your computer simpily because you don't have an AV.

Muskrat - Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:59 pm
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Using ANY browser correctly will be the key to internet security, I meant no emphasis on FireFox.

Cyan~Fire - Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:58 pm
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Alright, I have a challenge, Donkano. I have no anti-virus or firewall software on my computer, try to put a back door on my computer. There is a file called "password.txt" in root C, tell me the word it contains.

In fact, I'll even make it easier for you. My current WAN IP address is 24.144.126.108. My contact info is in my sig if you want to try social engineering.

Solo Ace - Sat Jan 07, 2006 2:26 am
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Meh Cyan, you're boring, at least accept ICMP.

We should try Ekted, I just don't think he still has 24.31.*.* as IP.

newb - Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:54 am
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SpecShip wrote:

I use IE correctly.
I haven't had troubles coming from IE.

Nor have I. But I just don't like IE purely because it seems to load webpages slowler than Opera.

Mr Ekted - Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:20 am
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Solo Ace wrote:

Meh Cyan, you're boring, at least accept ICMP.

We should try Ekted, I just don't think he still has 24.31.*.* as IP.

I'm GRC stealthed baby!

Donkano - Sat Jan 07, 2006 1:50 pm
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Cyan~Fire wrote:

My name isn't Quan Chi2, go throw the bone to him. I don't play fetch.

SpecShip - Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:37 pm
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Cyan~Fire wrote:

I'm no hacker, but I'll forward your beg-request to get fried to the club damus @ alt.sysadmin.recovery.

Cyan~Fire - Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:07 pm
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But you just said I'm open to attack, Donkano.

Spec, I don't want a hacker trying to break it, retard. Though I still don't think anybody would be able to get by our router. How do you hack a device that doesn't even reply?

SpecShip - Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:12 pm
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You said you have no firewalls.
If your router is filtering incomings...you're a liar, an ignorant bore or a combination.

Solo Ace - Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:17 pm
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He may have a hardware firewall or be behind a NAT device, he never denied those options, he only said he doesn't have any firewall software on his computer.

Cyan~Fire - Sun Jan 08, 2006 12:58 am
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Gravitron wrote:

You said you have no firewalls.

Or are you the liar, ignorant bore, or combination? Oh the irony!

And it's not even a little loophole I made to be cheap. Donkano stated that no AV software leaves you open to back-doors.

Donkano - Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:23 am
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Most people don't use a hardware firewall, they just connect directly into their modem. When I was talking about the "no AV software leaves you open to back-doors." it was in general. Which also branches to about me commenting about how the majority of AV's available come with a firewall.

Solo Ace - Sun Jan 08, 2006 8:52 am
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Most people their modems are NAT devices, which usually don't forward connects to their clients by default anyway.