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Trash Talk - WebHosting

BDwinsAlt - Fri Dec 30, 2005 3:00 pm
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http://www.duoservers.com/?r=*****
rofl webhosting by me.

Solo Ace - Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:16 pm
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Spam bots will love your email address in the meta tags.

What is this retarded crap?

newb - Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:48 pm
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Rolling On The Floor webhosting by BDWinsAlt. Can't you read Solo Ace?

Quan Chi2 - Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:23 pm
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.......... $ 16.67 /mo

lol Domain Name - $ 7.80

BDwinsAlt - Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:28 pm
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lol i did it only cause it's free. If some dumbass signs up then i get money.

Quan Chi2 - Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:42 pm
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you should say that in a topic that you're advertising in..

Solo Ace - Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:46 pm
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If this 'dumbass' actually finds a way to sue you and win, you might as well want to reconsider who you're calling 'dumbass'.

Cerium - Fri Dec 30, 2005 10:19 pm
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If I was looking for hosting (which I am), and I saw your site, I would immediately press the 'back' button and continue searching.

Solo Ace - Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:09 pm
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I wouldn't even get to browse the site. My eyes would just automagically hop over the result.

Contempt+ - Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:23 pm
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I wouldn't look in the first place. I'd talk to some friends who have website servers.

Cerium - Sat Dec 31, 2005 12:22 am
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Well arent you special.

BDwinsAlt - Sat Dec 31, 2005 1:04 am
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lol 4.17 a month now.

BDwinsAlt - Sat Dec 31, 2005 1:10 am
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$3.75 Buisness $7.50 Corperate.

Business:
Annual - $45.00 (3.75 mo.)
Domain - $5.00
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$50.00 for 1 year of webhosting.
||||15 GB Storage.|||||

Coperate:
Annual - $90.00 (7.50 mo.)
Domain - $5.00 (per domain)
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$95.00 (if one domain)
25GB Storage.

newb - Sat Dec 31, 2005 5:38 am
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You are really sad, BD.

SpecShip - Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:39 am
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First of all, it's not his hosting.
He actually linked you with him as a referal.

Second, the hosting is boner from what I say.
Scrap it.

Cerium, still haven't found a decent unix host with telnet access and java support?

Cerium - Sat Dec 31, 2005 1:07 pm
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Not one that has a decent price.

SpecShip - Sat Dec 31, 2005 3:56 pm
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Well, you ask a lot, sort of; And that costs.
Telnet access is a security hole, hosts that allow it either don't bother packing their server with much else because they expect one of the clients to frag it or charge very much for the priviledge.
Getting a low price + java + bandwidth/HD/etc., well...it has to cost.
You could probably get a semi-dedicated server for a decent ($50/mo?) price, which is more likely to allow telnet, but it's still gonna be rare to find.

Not to make a jab, but if you forfeit java and move to C, then you'll probably have a lot less trouble finding a decent unix+telnet host at a comfortable price.

Quan Chi2 - Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:29 pm
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$ 3.75 /mo
15,000 MB Hosting
300 GB Transfer
2.5 GBits network connectivity
99.9% server uptime guarantee
PHP support
100 POP3 accounts
30 days money-back guarantee Unrestricted bandwidth
5 FTP accounts
Front Page Extensions
FREE Site Studio
SPAM filter
Anti-Virus filter

sounds way better now

BDwinsAlt - Sat Dec 31, 2005 10:57 pm
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I have no control over certian accesses. I mainly setup prices. I do get profit from signups. $1.00 for domain, $5.00 for Business hosting. It's cool, sign up and you can get money too. http://resellerspanel.com

SpecShip - Sun Jan 01, 2006 2:40 am
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ROFL. Bullshit reseller. Hahaha.
I like the part where it says Unrestricted bandwidth then follows with 300 GB Transfer.
Nice contradiction, not to mention bogus offer as there is no way a puny reseller can offer either.
At most, you'll be scratching barrel bottom to provide 3GB per 10 clients.

2.5 GBits network connectivity, did your ethernet card broke? That is weak.

I bet those guys are resellers themselves.

It's like tapperware salesmen, used cars or insurance people.
You need to have a keen cunny business fuck-people-for-money talent.
Then you can work reseller shit and make big bucks.
Someone like you bdwinsalt, however, will never make it.

People who buy reseller plans either know their shit, have a viable business plan and the reseller deal they have is a geniuinely strong one to backup multitude of customers or they are suckers falling for the spider's web trap.

Confess - Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:47 am
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As far as the "Unrestricted Bandwidth" goes, they probably mean that they arent going to cap you out at 10k/sec, you use what is availible.

phong - Sun Jan 01, 2006 10:34 am
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I will host you cerium <3

SyrusMX - Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:19 am
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What do you need telnet for anyway with webhosting? That is, unless you plan on doing other things from the webhosting package other than running a website.

Also, some hosts will turn it on by request even if they advertise no ssh access.

Cyan~Fire - Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:39 am
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Just one use for telnet is unzipping. cPanel provides this through an HTML interface, but obviously I would prefer just a command prompt.

SyrusMX - Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:43 am
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unzip it locally then upload the directory via ftp.

Solo Ace - Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:17 am
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I'd like to know why "telnet access" is a security hole.
And why do you people care for the reason of requesting telnet access? If someone wants it, why isn't he free to ask for it?

Mine GO BOOM - Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:54 am
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Solo Ace wrote:

I'd like to know why "telnet access" is a security hole.
And why do you people care for the reason of requesting telnet access? If someone wants it, why isn't he free to ask for it?

It is a security hole just as bad as an open wireless point is. Everything sent over it is send in cleartext.

As for the reason why people ask, it is mostly so the person giving it out knows that the user will understand what he can and cannot do with the terminal. If the person responds back "to use VI to make small changes to websites quickly", you'll get the feeling that they know what they are doing. If the person responds back "to admin stuff and things" it is most likely their first command they'll type is 'dir', which I like to set as a shell script which list every file in their home directory with the text Removing... in front.

Granting shell access is no more of a security risk than FTP or PHP. It is just more likely they'll attempt to run applications on the server that they shouldn't be, because it is much easier to run something like ASSS via a terminal than through a PHP command, which is possible but an ugly hack. Just never grant telnet, always force SSH onto the users.

Cyan~Fire - Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:52 pm
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SyrusMX wrote:

unzip it locally then upload the directory via ftp.

Obviously that's an option too, but requires more bandwidth. Come on, don't tell me you didn't think of that. I'm just stating a reason why someone might want telnet (although, as MGB says, SSH is better).

Cerium - Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:25 am
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Phong, I would much rather accept hosting from quan chi, as he will be too busy making a malicious veebee app to steal any and all passwords sitting in my files.

Enjoy your netban(s), tool.

Solo Ace - Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:31 am
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So yeah MGB, FTP/HTTP/IRC are all security holes too.

I see more sense in the matter of what would be sent over those lines as a security hole than the protocol itself.

I wouldn't use telnet for remote administration, I just think a telnet (or telnet-like) connection is fine for what it can do.
Of course I agree, though, if security comes in sight, press the red button.

wEaViL - Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:32 am
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I was reading on what telnet is and from the site I found it was basicaly saying it was a server program that allows people to connect to it and use it as if they where sitting right in front of the server.. secruity hole would be the fact that it will allow a user to run any program they upload to the server like a virus for example. But perhaps the site I found for it was for a different program.

Default - Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:50 am
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Why dont you get a subdomain, like on sscentral.com ?

phong - Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:04 am
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Cerium wrote:

Phong, I would much rather accept hosting from quan chi, as he will be too busy making a malicious veebee app to steal any and all passwords sitting in my files.

Enjoy your netban(s), tool.

I do enjoy them, question is can you find what alias I am under in league?

tool. its fine, learn 2 netban

Chambahs - Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:40 am
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Am i missing something? Or did all this hostility come from nowhere?

phong - Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:26 pm
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yea default is a very hostile person

Chambahs - Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:11 pm
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i was talking about cerium...

Swift - Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:54 am
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phong give me time I'm sure I would eventually find out. I've got more patience than a panda bear

phong - Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:30 am
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SpecShip - Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:56 am
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Quote:

SA>SwiftAttack
Owner of SSCouncil.com
Owner of SSForum.net
Retired SS player, here for the players and the community

Quit the game already.

Swift - Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:44 am
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Hm - Considering I have nothing in my signature that's an amazing feat you pulled something like that out of your ass Gravitron. As it stands I have NOT retired thank ya very much.

As for the here for the players and community, of course I am. Unlike you sorry to say.

GG on the trash talk, as usual, lame and irrelevant yet quite the newbish piece of shit I'd expect out of someone like you.

wEaViL - Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:00 pm
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lol Swift...

the custom title says it all

newb - Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:48 pm
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wEaViL wrote:

lol Swift...

the custom title says it all

Aye sir.

SpecShip - Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:22 pm
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Haha, funny for you to say.
Since it's something you wrote for yourself, back in 2003.
As well, you call moi a newbie?
Your name wasn't even on the player list untill late beta, if at all.

Keep the trash talk to yourself and ssforum, you're all doing so well there.
Yet, you're all so irrelevant in here.
Go net ban some people, mr. lamer piss in head.

There is no Gravitron.
He helped the community, he tried to change for the better, he got fed charcoal.
You didn't deserve him.
Now you get the other end.

*hug & <3*

SyrusMX - Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:37 pm
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How did you help the community? By complaining about everything and treating new players like shit? Just leave.

SpecShip - Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:23 pm
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Heh, you were and remained a MX, syrus.

SyrusMX - Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:25 pm
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That was pretty lame, I expected better from you. I guess your slipping in your old age. Time to move on wouldn't you say?

Cyan~Fire - Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:57 pm
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LOL, I can't believe Grav is complaining about someone saying he was leaving but staying. That's retarded.

SpecShip - Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:05 pm
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I'm sorry for failing your trash talk expectations syrus, but as said, this is not ssforum net.
If my memory serves me correctly, I do recall you baiting me to do so on ssforum net several years back, and I do believe I've denied you there as well.

Eitherway, if you seek some stupendous trash talk, you'll get none from me.
Now return to your forums where you're happy with all the trash that's floating there.
Your blablahing is boring me.

Cyan you dummy, it was a joke.
I could care less who said what and when, it's just a cynic jab.

Contempt+ - Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:37 pm
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SpecShip wrote:

Eitherway, if you seek some stupendous trash talk, you'll get none from me.
Now return to your forums where you're happy with all the trash that's floating there.
Your blablahing is boring me.

I have yet to see you say anything stupendous.

wEaViL - Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:58 pm
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I'll agree Grav did help out some but the point still remains... just like under his new name hes still a ass and will always be a ass no matter what name he chooses... leaving would be doing us all a favor so you know that wont happen. Talking crap to and acting like you was more important then anyone on this board was the downfall of your staffing for MGB and 10 times out of 10 it was uncalled for, I am sure I could find some post on here that prove my point but im too lazy to bother with it.

I guess since I am a retired SS/Continuum player I should stop helping others and visiting this forum? Whatever, I know i've given alot to this board and have helped many of the newbies with there server problems.. especialy the ones that where linked to firewall and router problems and thats why I am still here today.

Cerium - Fri Jan 06, 2006 11:31 pm
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For those of you wondering why I want phong to die a very painful death, see below.

http://ssleague.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=4323

Let this be a warning to any of you who choose to trust his 'development hosting'. Expect your shit to be stolen, broken into or otherwise messed with if you dont let that little cocksucker have his way.

Seriously phong, I hope a large negro mugs you, rapes your girlfriend, then shoots you in the head. Worthless ass.

Confess - Sat Jan 07, 2006 1:55 am
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I guess SpecShip is gravitron?

newb - Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:52 am
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State the obvious, Confess.

Spyed - Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:59 am
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newb wrote:

State the obvious, Confess.

NOPE! I never knew that.

Anonymous - Sat Jan 07, 2006 8:34 am
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ceruim you still do not realize I never obtained any passwords from any file I hosted for premier. I simply used your password which demi had emailed me was never changed after 8 months after the hosting idea was scrapped.

Thank you shop again.

phong - Sat Jan 07, 2006 8:37 am
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Not to mention the fact that I was net banned because of it is a joke. But all that did was simply prevent me from using my name on ssc.

obsess more, learn2secure, learn2netban

I still don't hate you though, you hostile homo.

Cyan~Fire - Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:17 am
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Ahhh, so much idiocy in that topic. People debating and yelling about things they don't know about. FFS.

Cerium, you need to explain to them that Continuum has one of the best security systems of all internet games. I say this because it does not need something like punkbuster to ensure security. If someone actually hacked up a SS server, I would be amazed.

And phong, you are a complete liar and have no clue what you're talking about.

SpecShip - Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:06 pm
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Cerium, you are a sad kid, and I end it at that.

Weavil, you are ignorant and should be gagged.
If only misinformation could be punishable by law (hang the stupid media).

Solo Ace - Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:22 pm
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I love this.

Person A wrote:

Person B, you are [insult 1].
Oh and C, you are [insult 2].

Person B wrote:

Oh yeah? Your mom is [insult 3].
Person C, I hate you.

Person C wrote:

A and B, you guys suck.

The average intelligence and maturity levels of the "discussions" and members on/of these forums are getting higher and higher every day. Keep up the good work.

phong - Sat Jan 07, 2006 1:29 pm
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Cyan, how am I a liar?

Cyan~Fire - Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:04 pm
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You change your story.

phong - Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:02 pm
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Cyan~Fire wrote:

You change your story.

Where/when?

Cerium - Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:23 pm
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Phong, get the hint: You are banned from Chaos.

If you stay out of Chaos we will (a) stop deleting your names and (b) stop reapplying netbans. You can evade your existing bans all you want, just stay out of Chaos.

Anonymous - Sun Jan 08, 2006 8:54 pm
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Get my netbans removed and I will stay out of chaos. I accepted being banned from there.

phong - Sun Jan 08, 2006 9:23 pm
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Or atleast get some of them removed, I dont care too much if my names are banned but atleast my main machine id/mac/host would be nice

wEaViL - Sun Jan 08, 2006 11:48 pm
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SpecShip wrote:

Weavil, you are ignorant and should be gagged.
If only misinformation could be punishable by law (hang the stupid media).

Thats funny.. im ignorant becuase I stated what i've witnesed on these forums for the past 3 years? That makes you even more ignorant then you where 1 minute ago...

BDwinsAlt - Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:15 am
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Cyan~Fire wrote:

Bigshot

Cyan~Fire - Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:40 pm
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phong wrote:

Where/when?

Actually, nevermind. So many people insisted that you hacked that I thought you said it. Sorry.

But I still think you're BSing about "being investigated once" and full of it. You go off about how "you don't get arrested for trying" and about how you were just pointing out a security hole and really helping them by screwing up their zone. But you are far not the most retarded one on there.

Cerium - Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:28 am
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Actually... he DID claim to 'hack' his way in.

phong wrote:

If your bots didnt have security flaws I would have never obtained the passwords. Fix your bots.

Cerium wrote:

Security flaws? You had the config files because you were going to host the zone and the bots. Stop trying to sound like you hacked anything you obsessive liar.

phong wrote:

until you talk to demi and realize he blanked out all of the passwords. the files however did help me find the hole.

phong - Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:20 am
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well of course im not going to tell you what i was really doing

Solo Ace - Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:28 am
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Why not? Because people might think it was sad?

Anonymous - Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:22 am
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whats even sadder is you getting on my shit about it

Solo Ace - Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:50 am
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You can have your opinion, but actually, anyone can here, this is a trash talk forum.
Private message to keep things private.

Anonymous - Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:59 pm
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funny you say that as I was just giving my opinion

Anonymous - Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:45 pm
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Damn, he has a point.

Solo Ace - Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:45 pm
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What else would you call it? A fact? Or a 'wrong opinion'?
I agree on the last option.

Anyway, so you admit it was sad? Then why do you worry about telling, we know you're lame already.

newb - Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:45 pm
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^ Was me.

Edit: Damn you Solo. Anyway, that last guest was me

Solo Ace - Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:50 pm
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Haha, stop deleting cookies, fewl.

Cyan~Fire - Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:37 pm
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I don't see him claiming to hack anywhere in that "evidence," Cerium. "Exploiting a security hole" is not necessarily hacking, it could just be knowing a password that should have been changed.

Edit: typo fix

Cerium - Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:52 am
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He didnt hack anything; thats the point im trying to make. He abused passwords he was given because hes a bipolar idiot, nothing more.

The argument (if you can call it that) that Im making, is that hes been trying to lead people to believe he hacked the bots through some security hole, which as we both know, didnt happen.

phong - Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:51 am
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this is so last year..

Cyan~Fire - Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:20 pm
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Sorry, typo Cerium. I meant that he didn't say he hacked.