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(Deactived B l a h e r) - Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:01 am
Post subject: As I promised SSDD Server will be up
As some of you when you read https://forums.minegoboom.com/viewtopic.php?p=36547&highlight=#36547 thought this is never going to be up, or he's crazy well I have changed somethings around and will have the server up on Halloween or a couple of days after that.

Here are the specs for the server.

Server rules

If you have any questions, or ideas please post them. If you would like to be hosted please PM me DO NOT email me because I will be switching email once I get DSL.
I will also be hosting ASSS zones soon as SSDD-A once I set that server up (it will be on the same system)
Solo Ace - Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:15 am
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Memory on the CPU? What do you mean?

Which webserver will you run? What extensions will it support?
Purge - Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:18 am
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A DSL connection for a server is... bad. icon_wink.gif
(Deactived B l a h e r) - Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:19 am
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Solo Ace wrote:
Memory on the CPU? What do you mean?

Which webserver will you run? What extensions will it support?

Most CPU's now adays have memory on the CPU it's self for faster file using it's like the RAM or Cache but only faster to get too and I don't know what you mean by ext. and webserver it's my own computer server I have in my basement.
(Deactived B l a h e r) - Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:20 am
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Purge+ wrote:
A DSL connection for a server is... bad. icon_wink.gif

lol what are you talking about you and Psy of BF2 always had DSL or somthing crapier or slower lol and anyways once it's avaliable in my area I'm going to get T1 or T3 for the server.
Purge - Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:22 am
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blah-er wrote:
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lol what are you talking about you and Psy of BF2 always had DSL or somthing crapier or slower lol and anyways once it's avaliable in my area I'm going to get T1 or T3 for the server.


Psyphi and I never worked together...
(Deactived B l a h e r) - Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:25 am
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Purge+ wrote:
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Psyphi and I never worked together...

I know that but both of you used DSL a couple of times and when Psy used DSL with all those AI bots it was lagger then my 56k dial up lol. BTW I will only allow 1 or 2 AI bots if you made one (NO hardcore.dll) but the AI Eliza you can use as many bots as you want.
Purge - Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:29 am
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I've never had a DSL connection ever in my house. We've always had an 8mb up/dn stream connection after we switched from 56K dialup.
Maverick - Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:30 am
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Wireless shit for a server is ... bad too icon_wink.gif
(Deactived B l a h e r) - Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:35 am
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Maverick wrote:
Wireless shit for a server is ... bad too icon_wink.gif

the server will have the modem it's just I need it to be wirless hookup for my work computer and labtop. The modem itself will be connected to the digital phonejack.
Also I'm pretty sure it's aroung or at least 8 MB up/dn stream too
Purge - Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:37 am
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Man, if you're going to get a T3 connection at your house (highly unlikely) just get a dedicated server. It'll probably run you a bit less than paying for a T3 connection.

As for your rules, I think it's a bit too tyranical. Most zone admins won't be comfortable with them. icon_wink.gif
Default - Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:53 am
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Speed Test t1/t3/DSL http://www.t1-t3-dsl-line.com/speedtest.php
(Deactived B l a h e r) - Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:58 am
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Purge+ wrote:
Man, if you're going to get a T3 connection at your house (highly unlikely) just get a dedicated server. It'll probably run you a bit less than paying for a T3 connection.

As for your rules, I think it's a bit too tyranical. Most zone admins won't be comfortable with them. icon_wink.gif

lol rules are for rulers tongue.gif anyways how can I change them so you like them that's why I posted the mto fix the bugs out of things. I'm trying to make my server have as much possible freedom with out giving them access to shut every thing down which no body wants that to happen. Also yes I'm getting T3 or T1 if can get it. I have the money for it easily besides continuum isn't the only thing I do I host sites and have more then just one server buddy (4).
Default - Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:03 pm
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Are you rich blah-er?
Mine GO BOOM - Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:45 pm
Post subject: Re: As I promised SSDD Server will be up
blah-er wrote:
  1. I just bought a new Wireless Modem that will support up to 10 computers so I might be able to set more servers up if any body needs to have there server hosted.
  2. Intel Pent. 4 (yes it has memory on the CPU. I might upgrade though)
  3. Windows 2000 Server Pro
  4. Must have a Main Arena Bot for help, Lag check, and what ever you need it for the theme (maybe uses the Cred Dll)
  5. Must have at least 1 SMOD/2 MODS
  6. I will not accept some cray number of sub-arenas like 150 (no more that 55 AT MAX)
  7. NO Making fun or harrasing the staff of the server or MGB's forums.

My complaints, listing in order:
  1. You have no idea how a wireless network works.
  2. You have no idea how of processor or the internal parts of a computer works.
  3. I doubt you paid for it.
  4. Why must this be a requirement? Its a nice idea, but a requirement?
  5. Why these numbers? A smod/2 mods does nothing special. Why couldn't 4 mods handle this instead? Or two smods? Or 19 normal players with bot powers to silence/spec/ban players?
  6. How often does a zone with <50 population really need to worry about >50 subarena files just sitting there? Back when I collected maps, I got up to 500+ and it only takes ~60meg, which is insignificant in total's hard drive sizes.
  7. Ummm, what? The only user who did something like this was banned for being a complete idiot (still is, just less vocal), not just because he was harassing someone else.

All my other complaints have been handled by others.
Solo Ace - Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:52 pm
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Memory on the CPU for files? That sounds interesting, though, MGB.

How are you paying your T3 connection? Did you sell lemonade on the streets?

Show some of the websites you're hosting, I'd like to see. icon_smile.gif
1stStrike - Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:09 pm
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This is quickly approaching trash talk. Remember that this isn't the trash talk forum.
Contempt+ - Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:50 pm
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Default wrote:
Speed Test t1/t3/DSL http://www.t1-t3-dsl-line.com/speedtest.php

I tried that, worked great!
speedtest wrote:
Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /u2/www/libs/machine3.lib on line 768
Default - Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:59 pm
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Contempt+ wrote:
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Well it works for me icon_confused.gif
(Deactived B l a h e r) - Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:22 pm
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Mine GO BOOM wrote:
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My complaints, listing in order:
  1. You have no idea how a wireless network works.
  2. You have no idea how of processor or the internal parts of a computer works.
  3. I doubt you paid for it.
  4. Why must this be a requirement? Its a nice idea, but a requirement?
  5. Why these numbers? A smod/2 mods does nothing special. Why couldn't 4 mods handle this instead? Or two smods? Or 19 normal players with bot powers to silence/spec/ban players?
  6. How often does a zone with <50 population really need to worry about >50 subarena files just sitting there? Back when I collected maps, I got up to 500+ and it only takes ~60meg, which is insignificant in total's hard drive sizes.
  7. Ummm, what? The only user who did something like this was banned for being a complete idiot (still is, just less vocal), not just because he was harassing someone else.

All my other complaints have been handled by others.

Here are my answers back to your coment, and please don't assume I don't know how the internal parts of a coputer work. I have have been taking a couple of College computer classes as a freshmen and you pretty much have to explain the whole computer system.
1.I don't know how a wirless network works but here's how my Modem will work. The Modem will be inside the server like a regular modem and hooks up to the phone jack too. There is a wirless signal that is sent out from that modem to a reciver in each of my other computers.
2.As I explain above I don't know how exactly a CPU works but I know it's the brains of the computer and that as we reach the futar the chips get smaller and are able to fit more memory on a CPU for faster reaching from it's self. The CPU's memory is just anouther cache.
3. No I didn't pay for it I got the server from a friend that set it up for me (KFT)
4.I'll take that off then
5.Alright I'm changing it to 1 SYSOP and at least 2 MODS
6. Taking this completely off I thought it was stupid myself I just wanted to set a example.
7. I just want people to give you respect since your the provider of Subgame.
Purge - Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:30 pm
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blah-er wrote:
The Modem will be inside the server like a regular modem and hooks up to the phone jack too. There is a wirless signal that is sent out from that modem to a reciver in each of my other computers.


A DSL connection, especially wireless, isn't a good thing to have when running a server. You have a high chance of packetloss and possibly some interference with other devices if your router can't handle it. I'd recommend wiring your server and upgrading to at least T1 speeds.
(Deactived B l a h e r) - Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:34 pm
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Purge+ wrote:
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A DSL connection, especially wireless, isn't a good thing to have when running a server. You have a high chance of packetloss and possibly some interference with other devices if your router can't handle it. I'd recommend wiring your server and upgrading to at least T1 speeds.

I think I'll just get the server it's own modem and take the $250 I just payed for for only $50 tongue.gif and use that only on my PC's. As I said I can't get T1 yet in my area I'll just wait intill I can get it.
Purge - Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:35 pm
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I'm sure cable modems have surpassed T1 speeds. My friend's cable line goes about 3.5mb/s both upstream and down.
(Deactived B l a h e r) - Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:40 pm
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Purge+ wrote:
I'm sure cable modems have surpassed T1 speeds. My friend's cable line goes about 3.5mb/s both upstream and down.

*bangs head on desk* You Just Told Me To Get T1 And Now Your Telling Me Cable Is Better Then T1. I highly doubt that the day will come when Cable is better then T1 espiecaly T3, Or will be faster then Satalite Connection (though alot cheaper and stable).
Purge - Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:50 pm
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You should know this if you're going to be a server host. icon_wink.gif

Maybe what I said about cable being faster than T1 is only true in the metropolitan areas (like where I live). I'm not sure about your cable company.
(Deactived B l a h e r) - Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:54 pm
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Purge+ wrote:
You should know this if you're going to be a server host. icon_wink.gif

Maybe what I said about cable being faster than T1 is only true in the metropolitan areas (like where I live). I'm not sure about your cable company.

ehh I can't get cable anyways this is North Ohio lots of country valleys (like the one I live in) and rolling hills. I'm forced to have stailite from direct TV, but I have no complaints (I Have 650/900 channels lol 1120 are non english channels though and there are about 100 stupid non-Brand channel like Action Or Western channel tongue.gif)
Smong - Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:42 pm
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This thread reminds me of a similar one:
https://forums.minegoboom.com/viewtopic.php?t=4235

I like this bit: Must have at least 3 bots for protection, help, and hosting
Cyan~Fire - Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:43 pm
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I think cable has faster max speeds, but a T1 is a much more direct connection, and thus would probably always be better, at least for SubSpace, which is relatively low-bandwidth.
(Deactived B l a h e r) - Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:26 pm
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Smong wrote:
This thread reminds me of a similar one:
https://forums.minegoboom.com/viewtopic.php?t=4235

I like this bit: Must have at least 3 bots for protection, help, and hosting

ummmmm..... smog thats the thread I posted a while ago trying to get ideas for what the server should have I said right in it I'de get it up befor christmas somewhere near the bottem. I have the link to it right on the Server specs of this topic. lol (this is just a follow up thread of that)
What do you mean you like that rule anyway? I tried lowering it down to 1 and every body still hates it so I jus took it off a bit ago.
Smong - Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:39 pm
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It makes me smile biggrin.gif

Sorry for not noticing you already linked to that topic, I'm a bit tired at the moment (trying to read a small fraction of the 653 posts since my last visit a week ago).
Contempt+ - Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:25 pm
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I've got the highest connection right now, which still sucks. 3mb down/256 kb/s up

I'd like it to be higher, but it's great for what I'm doing right now. I run a FTP server and I host 2 zones. The lag is decent, with 60ms depending on where you live.
Confess - Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:25 pm
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The "ms" crap really does not matter. Back when SSI had there server hosted in the Neverlands, I was gettin a 200+ ping...yet the server was descently good, and I lagged very little. What really matters, is the amount of people you can handle before your connection starts freakin out and laggin.
Muskrat - Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:01 am
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Up & Away to the Second Star on the Right & Straight on into
the Morning Light!
(Deactived B l a h e r) - Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:56 pm
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Muskrat wrote:
Up & Away to the Second Star on the Right & Straight on into
the Morning Light!
What dose that have to do with anything about this topic Musk icon_biggrin.gif
Default - Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:28 pm
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When is your server up and running?
(Deactived B l a h e r) - Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:31 pm
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Default wrote:
When is your server up and running?

As I said in the first post at Halloween or a few days after it if I have problems setting it up from moving the Subgame from my PC it the server.
Default - Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:33 pm
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Ok. Will you have a website or any information for you hosting?
(Deactived B l a h e r) - Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:34 pm
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Default wrote:
Ok. Will you have a website or any information for you hosting?

As I Said On The First Post I Will Have The Website Up Along With The Server!!! READ THE DAMN THING FIRST new_let_it_all_out.gif
Default - Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:38 pm
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Oh calm down, I was just asking a few questions icon_sad.gif
Donkano - Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:57 pm
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blah-er wrote:
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AS I SAID ON THE FIST POST I WILL HAVE THE WEBSITE UP ALONG WITH THE SERVER!!!!!!! READ THE DAMN THING FIRST new_let_it_all_out.gif


I don't think blah-er will last long or else will have a completely dead server with his temper.

Which reminds me that I gotta get a hold of KomodoDragon. biggrin.gif
Solid_Fire - Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:40 pm
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Hey Donk....
Quote:
+ Latest News
- September 25, 2005: Server website is under complete reconstruction. Estimated time is 1 week before it is finished. (http://digital-vortech.ath.cx/)


Its been quite a few months :/.
Agurus - Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:22 pm
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Didn't Cyan~Fire own SSDD?
Donkano - Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:32 pm
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Solid_Fire wrote:
Hey Donk....
Quote:
+ Latest News
- September 25, 2005: Server website is under complete reconstruction. Estimated time is 1 week before it is finished. (http://digital-vortech.ath.cx/)


Its been quite a few months :/.


Ya well the thing is that other things have been coming up. As well the fact that I am the only 1 working on it and it is a rather very large project, it is bigger than your average website.
Solid_Fire - Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:47 pm
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Ah...Fun. (Asked you about it in game) But ty tongue.gif.
Donkano - Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:19 pm
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You're tecnician?
Purge - Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:22 pm
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Agurus wrote:
Didn't Cyan~Fire own SSDD?


SSDT*
(Deactived B l a h e r) - Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:31 pm
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Donkano wrote:
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I don't think blah-er will last long or else will have a completely dead server with his temper.

Which reminds me that I gotta get a hold of KomodoDragon. biggrin.gif

Wouldn't you think that people would read the whole post once they were told their first question was there already? But instead they make anogher question that if they had read the post they would already would have known. It's like when no body reads the news and then they come and ask all these questions. Sorry about the CAPS though it sliped tongue.gif
Default - Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:39 pm
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newb - Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:42 pm
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Does it really matter Default? Why inquire about things that don´t concern you at all?
Solid_Fire - Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:03 pm
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Default wrote:
At the age 15, where did you get the money from anyways?


Ever heard of allowence? Under the counter jobs? Helping your neighbers out?

And Donk, no im not a techie tongue.gif.
(Deactived B l a h e r) - Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:52 pm
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Sorry this is going to take longer than I thought because I'm waiting for my order for a 35 eithernet cable. I can't get the server from KFT with the new CPU intill the weekend. It'll be a while intill we get our order for the 11 filters I need for all our phone jacks intill then I only have 4 phones in our house hooked up. My website is a little behind the due date. and to top the whole thing off I just got 2 teeth pulled today and nobody understands me (will get two more pulled next week). icon_confused.gif
-thank you for your paitients I wish there was 35 hours in a day. icon_biggrin.gif

P.S. The DSL connection in my area is like 500k somthing icon_eek.gif if any one wants to know.
Solid_Fire - Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:25 pm
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Thats alot of phones in one household...
Purge - Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:37 pm
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Yeah, we don't even have house phones in my house. Just cell phones. sa_tongue.gif
Default - Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:19 am
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Okay dokkai icon_wink.gif
(Deactived B l a h e r) - Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:59 pm
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Solid_Fire wrote:
Thats alot of phones in one household...

When we built our house they said we needed alot of phone jacks but I think my parents over did it lol tongue.gif
(Deactived B l a h e r) - Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:23 pm
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Well DSL just disconnected me since I'm too far away (which makes no since because I was getting a 500k high connection) and that means AOL will stay a monopoly at my house and I don't have any other choice then to have Dial up so there is no server connection speed. I'm sorry but it's not my fault it's DSL's fucking fault because they should have double checked me instead of waiting 3 days after I have it...... icon_confused.gif
Contempt+ - Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:58 pm
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That's exactly why you do not host anything on DSL.
1stStrike - Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:05 pm
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Holy crap, this thread was such a waste. Locked due to sheer uselessness and the fact that this 'highspeed' dsl server will never become anymore more than a kids dream.
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