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Trash Talk - ?man format

Confess - Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:51 pm
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Ok, took me a while, but I came up with a man format that I like...only problem with it in my opinion is that it is toooo long, but aside from that factor, do you guys like it?

http://daashton.com/confess/man2.txt

Quan Chi2 - Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:04 pm
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SyrusMX - Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:10 pm
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That's super long. Like I said, don't even bother with a ?man, just put up a site with a command list. No one bothers with ?man anymore anyway.

Confess - Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:32 pm
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pfft, you'd be suprized how many people use it..I think it's best to have a ?man format, and thats what I'm going to do

Dr Brain - Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:56 pm
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You realize that that message would kick off any player it's sent to, right?

Confess - Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:58 pm
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Ok, I added it to the biller...theres just no way I can make something that big of a format smaller enough to actually fit in the screen...soooo scratch that format..I'll aim for a smaller one

But you gotta admit...its a nice format

Quan Chi2 - Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:08 pm
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its way too long.. and who really uses the ?man command? its really useless.. :/ i think you should put more work into another project.

Purge - Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:26 pm
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Ask Jesus if he likes it.

Quan Chi2 - Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:41 pm
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lol

Cyan~Fire - Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:47 pm
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Tell me, why are you even rewriting the perfectly good biller?

Purge - Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:49 pm
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He's just editing the strings text.

Confess - Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:55 pm
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Cyan: Says the man using SSI's edited version of catids biller..

Purge - Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:58 pm
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SSI was the first and rocks your socks.

Confess - Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:19 am
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Ima put the biller and zone up for anyone who'd like to see the bang format..Its still kind long.. It'll be up in SST Biller Development. I'd like to release a biller to the public. If I can get the man format to look nice, and then find a way to make it so you can alter the network name in the INI, then bam, we've got a biller released for the public use that is a lil neater then SOS', and a lil better.

Currently we're just using an SSI, Tsunade, Versetti look alike format..

Anonymous - Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:37 am
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how about stop flaming him and give him some respect, hes just done some hard work doign that and you throw it in his face, if you dont like, dont dost, infact dont even read the topic, idiots.

Solo Ace - Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:05 am
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Nobody's flaming him, really.
If the format is too long, it is.
I just hope he isn't going to take credit of this if he's only editing strings.

You should read Brain's first post in this thread carefully, though, Confess.

Confess - Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:11 am
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I wasnt taking it as a flame, I KNOW it is too long. (Hence why I said "The only thing I dont like about it, is it is too long".

I've had a biller that I created for...2 months? Im just now starting to decide that I'd like to release it too the public. I know that the public would LOVE to use it. Im not just editing the ?man commands, that would be no use.

SyrusMX - Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:33 am
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SSI's new biller is going to frickin smash everyone's. Don't waste ur time.

Cyan~Fire - Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:35 am
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No, I was really asking why, a question which you did not answer. What are you changing? I only use(d) SSI's biller because it's pretty centralized, not because it has amazingly cool improvements over the SOS version.

1stStrike - Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:40 pm
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Yea. There's nothing special about SSI's biller in reality.

Donkano - Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:48 pm
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Quan Chi2 wrote:

its way too long.. and who really uses the ?man command? its really useless.. :/ i think you should put more work into another project.

I use catid's ?man command all the time.

Only thing I would change in catid's biller is group everything.

Instead of: ?man changepassword
It would be: ?man 0 changepassword

Instead of: ?man kick
It would be: ?man 4 kick

Group it into levels.

And to find out all the commands in a level it would be: ?man LevelNumberHere

It would make things a lot more easy on the command spamming.

Maverick - Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:57 pm
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Confess, just try to compact it a little bit and it would be good

It's good you grouped it already and its clear, however I wouldn't think anyone would like to get spammed by a ?man command

Confess - Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:11 pm
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Yeah, I know. Im having a hard time creating a good, nice looking ?man format, while having it not spam you with commands...The one I have up in SST Biller Development is pretty much the best i've come up with so far, but when you are an operator, you still get spammed with commands.

Edit: This is what i've come up with so far...
http://daashton.com/confess/man3.txt
It cuts the one in SST Biller Development down a lil bit.

Edit Edit: Updated Operator Commands.
http://daashton.com/confess/man4.txt

Anonymous - Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:51 pm
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Solo Ace wrote:

who asked you 2gay4u

Quan Chi2 - Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:53 pm
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What does that mean?

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אני אחסל את כולכם ，אזי ，יהיה לי שקט ，סוף כל סוף 。

Cyan~Fire - Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:44 pm
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Why not just
L0: blah, blah, blah
L1: blah, blah, blah
L2: blah, blah, blah
and so on?

Confess - Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:50 pm
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Code: Show/Hide

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~
~ ~~~~~ Operator Commands ~~~~ ~ ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~
~ ~Level 0~ ~
~ [ changename, changesquad, read, block, changepassword ] ~
~ [ networkreset, netbantext, write ] ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~
~ ~Level 1~ ~
~ [ resetscore, addzone, removezone, listzone, changezone, recyclezone] ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~
~ ~Level 2~ ~
~ [ groupid, scoreid, **message, bantext, info ] ~
~ [ broadcast, extchat, notifyzone ] ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~
~ ~Level 3~ ~
~[ addop, removeop, info ] ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~
~ ~Level 4~ ~
~[ ban, listban, liftban, listop, adduser, alias ] ~
~[ commentban, notifyban, logout, banfree, listbanfree, liftbanfree ] ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~
~ ~ ~~~~~ Basic user Commands ~~~~ ~ ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~
~ Chat Commands Messaging Commands ~
~[ chat, notifychat, c-grant ][ msgpost, msgdel ] ~
~[ c-welcome, c-plist, c-allow ][ msgclear, msglist, msgview ] ~
~[ c-revoke, c-release, c-own ] ~
~[ c-list, c-kick, c-needp ] ~
~ ~
~ Squad Commands Squad Owner Commands ~
~[ squadownlist, squad ] [ squaddissolve, squadpassword ] ~
~[squadleave, squadowner, squadonline] ++---------------------------++ ~
~ ~
~ Basic Commands ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~
~ ++---------------------------++ ~ This biller is a public release ~
~[ login, version, top10 ] ~ of the SST biller. Feel free to ~
~[ whois, coin, password ] ~ use as pleased. ~
~[ details, setemail, setname ] ~ <Perhaps a bible verse here.> ~
~[ bzones, bnews, bstaff, contacts] ~ ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~
~Build 2.0b by Confess+ to SST Only~ ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~
[Hit ESC To Read Entire List. Type ?man <command> For More Info.]
You are network-wide operator level 0 - God

For some reason it doesnt seem to want to make a square...does anyone know why/how I can fix it? Perhaps adding more indentations/spaces?

Maverick - Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:58 am
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Confess wrote:

Edit Edit: Updated Operator Commands.
http://daashton.com/confess/man4.txt

Confess, I would get rid of all the ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ markup lines because I would to try to limit the size of the whole thing.
Can't you include the credits at ?version or something? Would also save a few lines.

This would be my version, still lengthy but less;

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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OPERATOR COMMANDS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
--[ Level 0 ]--
changename, changesquad, read, block, changepassword,
networkreset, netbantext, write

--[ Level 1 ]--
resetscore, addzone, removezone, listzone, changezone, recyclezone

--[ Level 2 ]--
groupid, scoreid, **message, bantext, info
broadcast, extchat, notifyzone

--[ Level 3 ]--
addop, removeop, info

--[ Level 4 ]--
ban, listban, liftban, listop, adduser, alias
commentban, notifyban, logout, banfree, listbanfree, liftbanfree

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PLAYER COMMANDS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
--[ Chat Commands ]-- --[ Messaging Commands ]--
chat, notifychat, c-grant msgpost, msgdel
c-welcome, c-plist, c-allow msgclear, msglist, msgview
c-revoke, c-release, c-own
c-list, c-kick, c-needp

--[ Squad Commands ]-- --[ Squad Owner Commands ]--
squadownlist, squad squaddissolve, squadpassword ]~
squadcreate, squadjoin, squadlist squadkick, squadgrant, squadname ]~
squadleave, squadowner, squadonline

--[ Other ]--
login, version, top10, whois, coin, password
details, setemail, setname, bzones, bnews, bstaff, contacts

1stStrike - Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:46 am
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This is another hopeless thread.

SyrusMX - Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:58 am
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I don't honor Cluepons

newb - Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:20 am
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rofl ^_^

Spyed - Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:22 am
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^.^

Confess - Sun Sep 18, 2005 3:32 pm
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Ooo, I like that format. Do you mind if I use it for the biller? You'd be accredited for it

Maverick - Sun Sep 18, 2005 3:58 pm
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Donkano - Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:37 pm
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Confess, if you can group things like I requested on the 1st page, you could send me it.

Confess - Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:07 pm
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lol, im trying my best to create a nice looking format..Even the one MMaverick posted looks a lil messed up when in-game.

When I am able to make it so you can change the network name (The greet message is where teh network name is displayed) I plan on submitting the biller to catid, then catid can put it up on his site.

Untill then, if someone would like to have the biller before that, I will gladly edit the biller for you/give you the src and let you do it. (That is after I get a ?man format I agree on, unless you want it the way it is now...or like the format in SST's zone (aside from Biller Development).

Donkano - Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:00 pm
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I'll take it after catid reviews it so I know there is no flaws at all. 2 minds > 1 mind

Purge - Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:51 pm
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Catid's one is fine as it is. Just keep your crap to yourself.

Confess - Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:00 pm
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Purge, you where ignored the past 1000 other post, what makes you think I'll listen to you know?

I could say the very same thing about your server. Keep your filthy server to yourself.

Purge - Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:04 pm
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Excuse me, but my server doesn't lag upon 2 players entering.

Confess - Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:45 pm
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Alright, the biller is ALMOST ready for release. When its done, ill pass it and the code over to Catid, and he can take it from there.

Update: Ok, the biller is in the hands of Catid. He'll take it from there

CypherJF - Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:11 am
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Is there any major additions or modifications, such as SQL support? Web-interface? New commands?

Confess - Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:14 am
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New ?man format, ?bzones, ?bnews, ?contacts, ?bstaff, Customizable greet message, and hopefully later down the road, ill add more commands and such. Maybe you can help me?

Its really just a little update, but an update none-the-less.

Spyed - Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:31 pm
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Can i be a netop confess?

Quan Chi2 - Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:39 pm
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Confess.. you seriously need something else to do.. Who the hell really looks are ?man command list?

Purge - Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:16 pm
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The new SSI biller will own all.

Confess - Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:21 pm
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Yeah, im sure it will. The new SSI biller is not going to be open source though (although plugins can be added..) and I also do not see it being finished for a long way off. Last time I talked to 1st, they didnt even have the chat commands all fixed up yet.

And newb, yes, i do need something else to do..

SyrusMX - Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:07 pm
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Of course it won't be open sourced, who would do such a dumb thing?

oh, and the ssi biller's progress can be checked here http://ssihosting.com/forums/index.php?topic=17.0

Contempt+ - Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:49 pm
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Wow, this is sad.. Confess, you "made" your own biller from scratch? Or did you just change the player->SendArena(""); lines for ?man. Who cares about a big and fancy looking ?man help list. The one that I made is a hell of a lot smaller than that, and it's a lot neater.

If someone wanted a biller, they'd ask. Also, catid has his that you can download. If they want to have it edited, they can do it themselves.

Confess - Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:29 pm
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Hypocrite.
Why the hell would I just edit the ?man format? That would be no use. now shh, read the other 1000x other post.

Purge - Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:44 pm
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I bet you got Versetti to do it for you and then you just edited the easy text outputs like ?man and ?bstaff.

1stStrike - Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:33 pm
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Ugh syrus, don't give out links to my forum to the trash here.

Confess - Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:40 pm
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http://ssihosting.com/forum/

Contempt+ - Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:53 pm
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Lol, I don't even want to start an argument.