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Gravitron - Sun Aug 21, 2005 3:37 pm
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Mr Ekted - Sun Aug 21, 2005 5:07 pm
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I use Analyzer for sniffing. http://analyzer.polito.it/

I absolutely loath Ethereal's UI.

Gravitron - Sun Aug 21, 2005 5:57 pm
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You judge an entire app. by its UI?
That's like saying UO sux because it's graphics are inferior to some korean junk of a MMORPG.

So, is that the new politicaly-correct pretty word - analyzer?

Alex> Otherwise known as a packet editor it's used to sniff yr protocol up and so we can haxor your ass.
*zzz*
Competitor> What is a network analyzer?

CypherJF - Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:10 pm
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An application can be powerful, but if users can't use it (easily) it might as well be no good. Sure, you can take the time to learn how to use it; but I like programs that I can quickly access and adapt to.

Mr Ekted - Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:34 pm
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I put a lot of stock in useability. If Ethereal was far far superior, it WOULD make a difference, but Analyzer does what I need.

Maverick - Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:40 pm
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Useability / UI is everything for people who are not that into computers and people that don't want to dive into an application.
(Useability is a hard thing, even windows makes mistakes here and there)

CypherJF - Sun Aug 21, 2005 7:01 pm
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I love the case-study of Killer Robot we studied in our Software Development course this past spring. My professor has been trying to implement more of an ethic's portion into the CSC majors - and included this into the discussion.

Quick summary: a robot operator is killed at his terminal after an error message appeared on the screen. They have been investigating the cause of the death: was it because the programmer misinturpreted the physics formulas? was it because of the faulty interface? was it just inadaquate training?

Chapter 6 is the discussion of the importance of well-designed interfaces. Because in this case study, had it been changed, it may have saved his life.

Though it's a hypothetical case-study, it sure opens-the-eyes of those developers out there who are responsible for systems that may cause potential injury or death to people. This is where a discussion of whether or not Software -engineers- should be certified like any other profession. That can be held for another day.

SamHughes - Sun Aug 21, 2005 9:09 pm
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Gravitron wrote:

You judge an entire app. by its UI?
That's like saying UO sux because it's graphics are inferior to some korean junk of a MMORPG.

Do you even know what a UI is? A good UI is all about the gameplay.

Dr Brain - Sun Aug 21, 2005 9:26 pm
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Gravitron wrote:

You judge an entire app. by its UI?

This coming from the guy who rails on cont because it made him lose 10 pixels on each side of his screen.

Gravitron - Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:15 am
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Sam, you're a moron.

Cifer, seems easy enough even for me to learn to handle.

Mr Ekted wrote:

Analyzer does what I need.

You mad hacker you. $

Cerium - Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:49 am
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Ekted is still not the k-elite hacker you are grav...

My Continuum chat window wrote:

P Cerium> !say gravitron, shut the fuck up and get a 4th
MRBot-11> gravitron, shut the fuck up and get a 4th
Gravitron> cerium, I can put yr bot on ignore too
Cerium> *arena go right ahead, ive got arena messages.
go right ahead, ive got arena messages.
Gravitron> and I got conitinuedshit hacked so I can ignore gay op msgs as well
Gravitron> see I got all bases covered
Gravitron> thanks to my good old friend
Gravitron> knowing ppl who actually know code and assembly, instead of java, pays off
Gravitron> by code I mean C#

Gravitron - Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:08 am
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You have added this moron to your Ignore List.

Priceless.

Mine GO BOOM - Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:32 am
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Gravitron wrote:

Priceless.

Which reminds me, congratulations for your July Challenge.

D1st0rt - Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:55 pm
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Thats like my aunt who used to work on flight control systems for F-14s. If they fuck up and there's a bug in the system, they have to notify the next of kin