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MasterTriforce - Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:53 pm
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As representative of SSR and Co-Owner, we would like to grant the biller name back to its rightful owner: CypherJF.

We have created a new biller and a new (unused) name for it: SSO, or SubSpace Overload. By doing this, we have no association with the other, older owners of SSR and are now a completely unique and original biller.

The Owners of SSO are as follows:

Cybersnipe
MasterTriforce

All of which are Co-Owner and have equal rights to the biller.

Further attempts at hacking any SSO related servers and members’ computers will be dealt with, weather it be by court or means of our own. Hacking is illegal (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20021115/0117252.shtml) and in violation of 4th Amendment rights. By connecting to this server, or interacting with it by whatever means, binds you to the laws of the United States and all associated terms of agreement.

You may NOT have another party attempt to hack as well for you will be guilty by association.

For anyone needing hosting on our biller, please contact MasterTriforce@Gmail.com

The website for this new biller is http://sso.50webs.com

newb - Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:14 pm
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Wow.

Bak - Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:24 pm
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that article you posted, as well as the 4th amendment refer to illegal searches done by the state, not to individuals hacking other individuals. How do you plan on dealing with people hacking you from outside the USA? Prosecute them under US law? Ha!

MasterTriforce - Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:30 pm
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So you support hacking?

Solo Ace - Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:37 pm
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How can you read that from Bak's post?

CypherJF - Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:27 pm
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By connecting to this server, or interacting with it by whatever means, binds you to the laws of the United States and all associated terms of agreement.

It's a blanket contract. Though this can not be considered legal advice.

Bak - Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:09 pm
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can't be a contract if I don't agree to it. Hope everyone who connects to your server reads these forums.

CypherJF - Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:21 pm
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Thats why I encouraged them to modify the biller to require a website account activation. It'd be easy to do with minor modifications to the catid biller source.

My original idea for SSR when I was thinking of getting a server from serverbeach, was that in order to access the server and the account is new, you'd have to goto say www.ssr.net to create the account; where you'd go through steps of signup, stating you agree to the biller terms and services, etc.

Then your account would then be allowed to be created on the biller through the website, if you agreed to the terms.

But I dont think they got around to doing such a system. :/

Though again I must state this is not legal advice -

They do not address the issue that most players are under the age of 18, which means in the US they are not legally bound to any contract. Their guardian must sign it for them.

Also, all billers technically violate the US laws that protect the gathering of information from people under the age of 13. Under US law, it is my understanding that a parent/guardian must give the OK for anyone to keep information (e-mail address, name, age, address, etc) about their child.

But ya know, no one enforces such things. Maybe I misread this stuff somewhere as well.

D1st0rt - Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:02 pm
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Also, if they're under 13 you can't collect any information from them.

MasterTriforce - Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:31 am
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The whole contract thing was just to cover ourselves since someone (to keep this from spinning in to a flame topic, I won't state who) had gotten another person to hack our biller. It was directed at him and anyone that he tried to get to hack us again.

I didn't mean to offend anyone else, just to try to keep it from happening again.

CypherJF - Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:54 am
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CypherJF wrote:

Also, all billers technically violate the US laws that protect the gathering of information from people under the age of 13. Under US law, it is my understanding that a parent/guardian must give the OK for anyone to keep information (e-mail address, name, age, address, etc) about their child.

D1st0rt wrote:

Also, if they're under 13 you can't collect any information from them.

Just a little slow there d1?

Spyed - Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:52 am
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I thought Acekiller was also Network staff or an SSO owner?

MasterTriforce - Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:09 pm
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He resently told me that he quit. I am not exactly sure why, seems to be personal reasons.

Chambahs - Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:07 pm
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So, in order to connect to your biller you are gonna need to go through a website and do stuff....lol heads up to all zones that are gonna be connected to this biller...you wont get pop, well thats what i think anyway

CypherJF - Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:10 pm
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No thats just my opinion, which doesn't have anything to do w/ SSO.

Spyed - Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:14 pm
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Erm chambahs.. Didn't Anaconda make that signiture?

D1st0rt - Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:55 pm
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Nah cyph, I just stopped reading after the part about guardians signing for them