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Assassin2684 - Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:40 pm
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Does anyone know if i can get microsoft front page for free anywhere? I really need it. Even a trial would help. Thanks.[/right][/left]

Solo Ace - Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:44 pm
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No idea, probably nowhere available for free, nor in trial version.

Learn to use notepad, that's more powerful than frontpage.

CypherJF - Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:51 pm
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I'm sure MS has a copy of a trial on their website. I use Dreamweaver by Macromedia, and it's pretty sweet. I saw my one professor teaching frontpage - i wanted to jump in there and just freak out. lol. I've just tired of typing everything by hand in notepad

.. been there done that, time to move on.

Assassin2684 - Thu Mar 31, 2005 3:01 pm
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Hehe, i tryed dreamweaver, but its hard for me not knowing much coding skills. I will try microsoft home page but it wasent workign eairlyer for me.

Purge - Thu Mar 31, 2005 3:11 pm
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I think Dreamweaver is easier to learn than FrontPage...

Assassin2684 - Thu Mar 31, 2005 3:18 pm
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I dont kno, i need ot be taught face to face how to use dreamweaver just how i was taught front page. Thats whay i want it so bad

I might be able to get a crack if i can atleast get a trial.

Anonymous - Thu Mar 31, 2005 3:19 pm
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Word can save to html if you have that. Also doesn't a lite version of frontpage come with the operating system? Maybe you can try add/remove programs windows components or something.

Bak - Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:03 pm
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notepad can save as html too

D1st0rt - Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:41 pm
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Textpad even does syntax coloring

Solo Ace - Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:43 pm
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Just don't crack it, like SuSE did.

It is nice, yes.

Learning how to make a website using your own HTML would be a lot better than using frontpage or anything else.

Cerium - Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:42 pm
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Yeah, its generally better to learn HTML first hand so you know exactly how your page works...

But the nice thing about WYSIWYG editors, is most of them (assuming theyre up to date) will generate code that conforms to standards -- which is something I still dont do without spending extra time with w3c's validator.

Cyan~Fire - Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:41 pm
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Word saves the most awful "html" I've ever seen. Instead of using proper tags, it uses <span> with all sorts of crappy CSS to emulate them.

Assassin2684 - Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:44 pm
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I have no idea what that is lol. I really need front page because i have a template but i need to edit it.

newb - Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:23 am
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...there are other programs that are so much easier to use than Frontpage you know, Assassin.

By the way, Microsoft won't let you have it for free, or on trial. You have to buy it.

Tell me, do you have £600 to pay for the whole package?

Maverick - Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:29 am
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Cerium wrote:

But the nice thing about WYSIWYG editors, is most of them (assuming theyre up to date) will generate code that conforms to standards -- which is something I still dont do without spending extra time with w3c's validator.

Most do, Frontpage DOESN'T.

As Cyan~Fire said, Frontpage makes horrible code. Your page slows down at least 3 times with normal HTML due to size and complexity.

Learn Dreamweaver, step away from Microsoft while you still can. Really, that is true - frontpage sucks

Assassin2684 - Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:41 am
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Ya i kno it does but its so hard to learn from tutorials. It helps when somone teaches you face to face. O and newb what other editors are out there?

SamHughes - Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:34 pm
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HTML and CSS are the simplest things. WYSIWYG (WYSINWYG, to be accurate) editors only slow the development process down. They are only useful for creating good web pages if you know the languages anyway; clueless users end up making crap.

D1st0rt - Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:56 pm
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If you can handle bbcode, html is just like one step higher to do yourself.

Maverick - Sat Apr 02, 2005 8:57 am
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D1st0rt wrote:

If you can handle bbcode, html is just like one step higher to do yourself.

sooo much agreed to that, html can't be more easier. Still if you can choose, choose for XHTML instead of HTML so all pages look the same in all browsers.

Cyan~Fire - Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:01 am
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That's still not true. Different browsers have different CSS support.