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Mine GO BOOM - Tue Oct 14, 2003 11:02 pm
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Go look at any news site. China is now the third nation to enter space.

Big deal? Who cares? I think it is interesting, and actually may help NASA in the end.
Dr Brain - Tue Oct 14, 2003 11:36 pm
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And another communist country enters the deep.

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SuSE - Tue Oct 14, 2003 11:53 pm
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there's nothing wrong with communism
Dr Brain - Wed Oct 15, 2003 7:39 am
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Sure...
Cyan~Fire - Wed Oct 15, 2003 5:28 pm
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Have you ever read any Marx? If you do, I think you will realize, if you think open-mindedly, that communism is the best form of government out there.
Americans and other capitalists need to get over the propaganda fed to them by their governments and realize that capitalism is, basically, barbaric. It supports survival of the fittest. I think we, as humans, should've gotten over that way of life shortly after the caveman days, and definitely before where we are now.
Mine GO BOOM - Wed Oct 15, 2003 6:48 pm
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Yes, but practically, capitalism is very easy to impliment with only little government involvement compared to others. Communism works great in theory, but horrible in practice. It requires too much that the governing body is not corrupt, something that has yet to happen in the history of man.
SuSE - Wed Oct 15, 2003 6:51 pm
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I agree with you both mostly

just saying that it doesn't matter what government runs the country you live in (or are born in) - you have half a brain and you'll be fine
Dr Brain - Wed Oct 15, 2003 9:09 pm
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It has nothing to do with the government's corruptability, and everything to do with lowest common denominator. If a doctor gets paid the same as a janitor, why should the doctor work hard? And after that, everything goes downhill.
SuSE - Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:00 pm
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Dr Brain wrote:
It has nothing to do with the government's corruptability, and everything to do with lowest common denominator. If a doctor gets paid the same as a janitor, why should the doctor work hard? And after that, everything goes downhill.


in a perfect communist society everyone is equal - nobody lives in squalor, everyone lives well - there is no such thing as personal profit

therefore jobs (like being a doctor) are reduced to being simply what they should be - a qualified person doing something they enjoy

probably not too many people would want to be a janitor, but that is not necessarily a problem - people can clean their own areas - people can take turns being a "janitor" - for the common good, you see, not for money

the problem in many so-called "communist" societies is that there IS a government, it IS corrupted and the society is in fact NOT communist at all

don't confuse what many people have called governments of some countries with what communism truly is
Helicon - Thu Oct 16, 2003 8:00 pm
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Summary of Current Events:
1.)Observation
2.)Wisecrack
3.)Communism???

therefore observation+wisecrack->communism???

then, following

communism(observation,wisecrack)->discord

wow, deep
Dr Brain - Thu Oct 16, 2003 8:06 pm
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$$ heli
knightrider01 - Fri Oct 17, 2003 4:58 pm
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icon_cry.gif Im indirectly from China. (I'm from Taiwan which used to be part of China) This question is kinda offensive. But I have to go on someone's side. So I go with the "Communism is Bad" side. I don't like communism. And also..... I thought China was free from Communism..... icon_cry.gif
SuSE - Fri Oct 17, 2003 5:26 pm
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China is still "communist" - not that it's perfect communism

Taiwan is (according to an agreement between the USA and China) a rogue state of China

it should, of course, be left alone as its own nation, as should Tibet...for some reason the Chinese get really insulted at the idea of people they have very little in common with having their own state
Mine GO BOOM - Fri Oct 17, 2003 10:57 pm
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knightrider01 wrote:
I thought China was free from Communism


They have been doing better now, allowing some trade into the country. They are still holding the yen artificially high, which will hurt them in the future, but benefiting them in current trades greatly.
Helicon - Sat Oct 18, 2003 12:19 am
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we should ask someone inChina...

hmm, you know, i don't see too many of them in this forum...

kinda makes one wonder, eh?
Cyan~Fire - Mon Oct 20, 2003 2:33 pm
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Helicon wrote:
kinda makes one wonder, eh?

I've heard many stories of foreign [to China] people who visit China and are surprised to see the luxury and freedom they have there. I'm sure someone could run a server from China if they wanted to, but I bet a lot of Chinese are not very intereseted in this, as they have a very different life.
I've never been to China but I have read books on China and its people, so that's what I'm basing this on.
knightrider01 - Mon Oct 20, 2003 2:50 pm
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Im chinese....... Second.... Yen is from Japan. I have NO idea what Chinese currency is. So.... I think Im gettin kinda confused.
Mine GO BOOM - Mon Oct 20, 2003 3:11 pm
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My bad, the Yen is Japan's, China's is Yuan Renminbi.
Helicon - Mon Oct 20, 2003 8:15 pm
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considering of course that the currency in China may bot be standard nationally (of course there is some presence internationally)
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