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FudLe Pucker - Sat Aug 30, 2003 4:18 pm
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So, as some of you know, i'm trying to make a ctf zone. Since the bot is pure trash and doesn't work at all, I decided to do it another way.

I just put two turf flags in two bases. Edited the settings so players can cary both flags. Got a flagmover plugin for Mervie, so the flags could only be dropped in any of the flagrooms... Result?

First of all, dropped flags disappear (yes i dropped them in fr). When they try to reappear, the victory music plays for a second and the flag disappears again and the whole thing happens again. I'm guessing this is the flagmover's doing but i don't know why.

Ok I removed the FM plugin from the bot. I collect both flags. type in ?flags. See "Fudle (2), uncarried flags 2" (and MaxFlags=2). And it's actually correct. I am holding both flags, but an extra two flags appear in the flagroom. When i take any of them, i automatically drop them and they immediatly reappear in the old spot. Now remember, I still hold two flags on me.

I put Mode=2 (turf mode) so the turf flags will be where i put them (how else can i have a ctf game without a bot). So is this a universal glitch or just something that happens only to me...

SuSE - Sat Aug 30, 2003 4:27 pm
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eh, can't think right now, need food, but attach your flagmover .bmp

FudLe Pucker - Sat Aug 30, 2003 4:33 pm
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here u go... i saved it as png... if only i knew how to work the pngcrush (but hey, going from 1 meg to a few kbs isnt bad)

PLZ DONT USE MY MAP :(

Mine GO BOOM - Sat Aug 30, 2003 4:49 pm
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Simple, you are using turf mode, and the flag-moving bot doesn't read the .lvl for flag coords. In my old core, I added that ability so you can see where certain turf flags are located, but I doubt merv reads .lvl for flag coords when dealing with a turf map.

Also, I crushed your png file for you. 13,671 -> 5,353 bytes (60% smaller size)

FudLe Pucker - Sat Aug 30, 2003 5:04 pm
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i still dont get how you use that crush thingie.

So there is no way I can have a CTF zone... cuz... zero programmin skills... the bot doesn't work at all... non-bot way glitches like hell... SIGH!!! this really sucks! Every zone i built ends up like this... map done, sets done, except the main purpose cant be worked out...

Mine GO BOOM - Sat Aug 30, 2003 5:08 pm
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Could always buy a simple C/C++ programming book to get the basics.

FudLe Pucker - Sat Aug 30, 2003 5:31 pm
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I dont think it'll help... I'm not a person that gets taught by a book... It's hard to explain, I just dont think it'll help... And merv dll programming is C++?
God, i dont even know what C++ stands for... i'm such a n00b

Cyan~Fire - Sat Aug 30, 2003 5:36 pm
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Bleh I thought I knew C++ before I started working with plugins. :-S So complex.

FudLe Pucker - Sat Aug 30, 2003 5:50 pm
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great job of lifting my spirits there, cyan...

Katie - Sat Aug 30, 2003 5:57 pm
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I see your pain Fudle. I'm still having trouble getting someone to mod a warp bot to fit what I need to do in my zone... but eh, if I can't, I geuss I'll just forget all the long hours of work I put into it and shut it down.

Cyan~Fire - Sat Aug 30, 2003 6:10 pm
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Sorry, just trying to convince you learning C++ while programming bot plugins is nearly suicidal

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Errr sorry I, I know I told you I'd do it, but I've been too frickin busy with school (stupid homework, gets in the way of SS).

FudLe Pucker - Sat Aug 30, 2003 6:12 pm
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sigh, for your info, already 6 zone projects of mine ended up like this one... 7 is not a lucky number for me...=

SuSE - Sat Aug 30, 2003 6:13 pm
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you guys need to buddy up with a bot maker

I'm pretty close with a few, but I never need bots

I think you can make plugins for Merv using Visual Basic

there's a tutorial or something at mervbot.com and another thing at dueling.net/MERVbot_tutorial.html

and I've barely looked into C++, but I believe it is called "C" because a popular programming language before it was called "B" and a plus for each significant update (sure Mine or Smong or somebody can clarify all this if you care)

Cyan~Fire - Sat Aug 30, 2003 6:20 pm
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Sorry I can't help more right now.

What's your zone's name?

FudLe Pucker - Sat Aug 30, 2003 6:26 pm
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it doent matter really...

Katie - Sat Aug 30, 2003 10:49 pm
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Only 6 times? I've changed the very aspect that made my zone interesting over a dozen times! This one WILL work, but there's no bot, so I'm probably just gunna kill my whole "zone-making" hobby.

Smong - Sun Aug 31, 2003 8:11 am
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FudLe Pucker, there are CTF bots already out there, I would concentrate on getting a host that already has a CTF bot (but I guess subarenas don't sound attractive?).
I think I'll go along with what Akai said about C, things could get a little complicated (especially if SOS posts).

SuSE - Sun Aug 31, 2003 8:48 am
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Smong wrote:

things could get a little complicated (especially if SOS posts).

lol I think he doesn't visit this board anymore, but funny

FudLe Pucker - Sun Aug 31, 2003 2:57 pm
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Smong wrote:

i told u, the ctf bot doesnt work!!