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[hellzlaker]

why do poeple say that a real programmer uses printf() over cout? To me they look pretty much the same except for printf() you do more writing and its smaller

like isnt it just easier to do

Code: Show/Hide int age; cout<<"enter your age: "; cin>>age; cout<<"you entered "<<age;

then

Code: Show/Hide int age; printf("Enter your age: "); scanf("%d",age); printf("you entered %d",age);

[Samapico]

it's pretty much the same, typing-wise.

There was a big discussion among the Great Geeks of this forum about this... one of the 2 is "more efficient", apparently, but since you don't print something 1000 times a second, it doesn't change anything.

It's like the people who say Firefox is the only worthy browser, vs IE users... there are fanboys on each side, but they have no idea how much their fight is worthless...
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[Dr Brain]

Mostly because "real programmers" use C, rather than C++.

I use the term loosely, of course, since the lower level you are, the more "real" you are. Making the people who cast the silicon the real programmers, I guess...
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[k0zy]

/me waits for MrEkted to comment on the issue

I still remeber the endless discussions about that... ^^
And why MrEkted uses goto. That was fun to read, too.
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[Samapico]

I always thought the formatting was pretty flexible with printf... never used cin/cout, though.

[Dr Brain]

Anything you can do with one, you can do with the other. There are arguments for efficiency and abstraction on the C++ streams side, but they're fairly trivial things either way.

If you use C++, then you use iostreams. If you use C, then you use fprintf.

[Animate Dreams]

fprintf is file print, right? I think you mean iostream/printf, or fstream/fprintf

[Doc Flabby]

i find the printf syntax easier to read and understand, but thats just personal preference.
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[Dr Brain]

IOStreams encompass the console and file io, and fprintf(stdout, "x") and printf("x") do the same task.

[hellzlaker]

I just read a topic somewhere else and turns out in the C# you dont use cout or printf but you use their new function Console.WriteLine("Hello World!");

and its closer to printf but i dont get why do they have to keep changing shit?

this is how the input age works in c#

string input;
int age;
Console.WriteLine("Please enter your age");
input = Console.ReadLine();
age = Int32.Parse(myInput);
Console.WriteLine("You entered {0}", age);



now just tell me how gay is first impression of c# is?


also did Ekted have an acount on MGB? I read some stuff on wiki how ekted said that every one is a noob on SS and thats why he quit, or something like that

[tcsoccerman]

c# owns.

[Samapico]

the console is only used for debugging purposes most of the time anyway... getting input from it, and especially validating is a pain in the butt, and ugly

[Blocks]

Mr Ekted uses goto? I never knew him, but I thought better of him.

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[Animate Dreams]

[Samapico]

I'm pretty sure you need to use the .toString() method:

Code: Show/Hide Console.WriteLine("You entered " + age.toString() );

[D1st0rt]

the + operator is overloaded so you don't need to

Alternatively, you could even do

Code: Show/Hide Console.Write("You entered "); Console.WriteLine(age);

If you're doing a lot of string processing you should use String.Format (which is what you showed earlier with the {0}) or a StringBuilder for performance reasons.

@Ani: if you put the Show() method body into ToString() you would be able to Console.WriteLine(class);
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[hellzlaker]

well i guess i got used to C++ so much that all other languages look weird, but PHP, JAVA they kinda feel like C++, and C of course

[Dr Brain]

[k0zy]

Did you guys know that Java features a goto like construct? It can be used to break out of nested loops for example.

I just found that out a few weeks ago.

[Dr Brain]

Yes, and the entire Java library is written without using it. In the Java specification, they say that it's bad practice to use it. I think they only put it in as a concession.

[CypherJF]

I actually saw that the other week when I was decompiling a few java class files; it used a couple of goto statements.
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