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Maverick

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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:26 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: ?spec * question |
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Does anybody know what the '*' marks in the response of the ?spec command?
Quote: | SPEC: *Rotting-Corpse,Stung,spansinity,the-fire,Solar Energy,Drakoon
SPEC: *a Poisonous Walrus,Kozone,*Maiden,*Bope,*raizin,*DuBois
SPEC: *Art of Destruction,up in smoke |
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tcsoccerman Server Help Squatter
Age:33 Gender: Joined: Jan 15 2007 Posts: 694 Location: Atlantis Offline
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:40 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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same team? |
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Dr Brain Flip-flopping like a wind surfer

Age:39 Gender: Joined: Dec 01 2002 Posts: 3502 Location: Hyperspace Offline
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:47 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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I'd guess those with * are speccing directly, and those without are just within range. But I'm only guessing, since I haven't used subgame in years. _________________ Hyperspace Owner
Smong> so long as 99% deaths feel lame it will always be hyperspace to me |
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Solo Ace Yeah, I'm in touch with reality...we correspond from time to time.

Age:38 Gender: Joined: Feb 06 2004 Posts: 2583 Location: The Netherlands Offline
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:11 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Or, those with * are speccing you "just because they entered spectator mode", and the others because they like men...err because they selected you from the list to spec you?  |
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Samapico No, these DO NOT look like penises, ok?

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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 7:17 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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I always wondered too... I thought it had to do with staffers
And I doubt MMav would have many people speccing him 'just because they entered'... you get to spec the person with the first name sorted alphabetically _________________ (Insert a bunch of dead links here) |
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Mine GO BOOM Hunch Hunch What What

Age:41 Gender: Joined: Aug 01 2002 Posts: 3615 Location: Las Vegas Offline
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 10:37 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Dr Brain wrote: | I'd guess those with * are speccing directly, and those without are just within range. But I'm only guessing, since I haven't used subgame in years. |
Other way around. Anyone with the * are viewing a 'screen' area around you. As for how far that is, I don't know. |
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Cerium Server Help Squatter

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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:31 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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I thought it was that the players with an asterisk had been watching you, then started sending position packets indicating they are moving around independently.
I'm pretty certain that they won't show up in that list unless you're the last person they were spectating. Then again, it could just be a list of players who are in spec and close enough that the server sends your position and weapon packets to them, but then most people would always have at least one person in that list... _________________ There are 7 user(s) ignoring me right now. |
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Maverick

Age:40 Gender: Joined: Feb 26 2005 Posts: 1521 Location: The Netherlands Offline
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:30 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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hmmm interesting
BTW. I took this ?spec output right after everybody was specced using *specall but I was still in. |
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Mine GO BOOM Hunch Hunch What What

Age:41 Gender: Joined: Aug 01 2002 Posts: 3615 Location: Las Vegas Offline
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:25 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Everyone sends their position packets at all times, even in spec. The server forwards them to people who need to get them, and for spectators they forward them as well, but generally not as often. So when your client side ?spec command executes, for a normal user it just shows who is actually watching on you. If the client thinks you are a moderator (same way it knows if to show private frequencies), it will also show a list of people who you have a position packet as being near you, and they are in spec.
If someone fighting around you goes into spec mode, and they begin spectating someone else, you'll still see them with a * in your ?spec list until their position packet that you have stored is either replaced with a new one, or it times out.
As for those saying this is only for subgame, wrong. This is the client doing this. If you acknowledge to the player that they are a moderator when they log in, and they get a position packet from someone near them while that person is in spec, they will see them with a * next to their name with a ?spec. |
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Dr Brain Flip-flopping like a wind surfer

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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:36 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Mine GO BOOM wrote: | Everyone sends their position packets at all times, even in spec. The server forwards them to people who need to get them, and for spectators they forward them as well, but generally not as often. So when your client side ?spec command executes, for a normal user it just shows who is actually watching on you. If the client thinks you are a moderator (same way it knows if to show private frequencies), it will also show a list of people who you have a position packet as being near you, and they are in spec.
If someone fighting around you goes into spec mode, and they begin spectating someone else, you'll still see them with a * in your ?spec list until their position packet that you have stored is either replaced with a new one, or it times out.
As for those saying this is only for subgame, wrong. This is the client doing this. If you acknowledge to the player that they are a moderator when they log in, and they get a position packet from someone near them while that person is in spec, they will see them with a * next to their name with a ?spec. |
Sounds nice and all, but you're completely wrong. ?spec isn't a client side command. Spectator's position packets don't even get forwarded to clients. |
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Mine GO BOOM Hunch Hunch What What

Age:41 Gender: Joined: Aug 01 2002 Posts: 3615 Location: Las Vegas Offline
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:54 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Dr Brain wrote: | ?spec isn't a client side command. Spectator's position packets don't even get forwarded to clients. |
You are correct. It has been a while, and the information I remembered wasn't from client emulation as I thought but working with ASSS. Clients do forward their position while they are in spec, but the server does not have to forward to the client. |
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