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The Apache
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| yes you most certainly do... |
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| Wow, that took me a while. |
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LearJett+
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| Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:06 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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i don't get it.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:23 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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| Not funny. |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:30 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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| Yea, I would rather see welfare go, rather then poverty it's self. |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:45 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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| Bak wrote: | | why's that blah-er? |
Hmmm... Let's see.
Most people make more money off of welfare, then actually working. It takes the hard working peoples money, and gives it to the lazy ass white trash. I'm pretty sure, that if we got rid of welfare, then we would have less unemployed people, because then they don't have a source for money, so they go out and get a job for once, and then we have less unemployed people.
If you can't go out and get a job, in the US, then you deserve to be poor, because your obviously lazy. My dad recently lost his job, because our family business went down, and he's only a excavator, and he's had over hundreds of job offers in the past week, willing to anything to get him to join them. And he doesnt even have a degree, nor is her certified.
As for other third world countries that are poor, well I feel bad for them. And we need to help that, but we are having problems of our own, with losing most of our income to China and other places.
But I also think if we get off welfare, then maybe we'll have more people wanting work, meaning that wages can be lower, so the price of a dollar bill goes back up, and then we have more companies that will make more here, then over in China. But I don't know if that would be correct.
Probably better school districts, along with nation wide taxing for schools (for a more stable, even system), would probably make a bigger difference.
As for our government themselves, have you seen there retirement benefits?!?!?!? They draw in more then most people make, just because they were a senator or something for a few years..... |
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Quan Chi2
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| Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:30 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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There are a ton of people on welfare in my neigborhood. They stand on the corner and smoke weed. There is a postive and a negative:
Postive: These people have kids and thier kids aren't doing that bad.
Negative: These people are lazy. Too many of them are getting by way too easy while people are busting thier asses working.
But I wouldn't really know. Im 15 and haven't had a job since I was born. Just school. |
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You've got to get the poor some concessions, how will you keep them satisfied? It's not like the old days when they were too uneducated to leave the manor.
Some ppl are just asking for riots. :\
That's a cool ring design btw, I wish I'd seen that when I had the materials to make that stuff. Jewelrymakingclass2win. |
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Quan Chi2
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| K, no offense, but you'd be called a spammer if you posted things like this on my forum. |
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The problem is not welfere pays too much. It is the minimum wage is too low. Removing benefits is not a good idea. People who choose not to work or cannot find work are unlikly to work and get jobs if you remove there benfits. They are more likly to steal.
The miminum wage for and adult over 22 is £5.05 an hour = $9.51 an hour.
thats almost double the us minium wage of $5.15 an hour.
In the uk we have free world class health care for all. If people are healthy they are more likly to want to work.
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| lol i love you Bak. |
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| Doc Flabby wrote: | | The problem is not welfere pays too much. It is the minimum wage is too low. |
Really? In the U.S., the minimum wage is why black people have been achieving equality in the work force much more slowly than women. |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:09 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Whats that supposed to mean?
Minimum Wages
Minimum wage in new york is goood. Oh and Washington |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:49 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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| Doc Flabby wrote: | | The problem is not welfere pays too much. It is the minimum wage is too low. |
Really? If you think about that, why do you think companies are moving away to china and other foreign countries? That's because we are asking for to much money, to work...
If you raise the minimum wage anymore, then the amount of a dollar is just going to keep getting lower and lower.
Don't you remember the days where you could get gas for $0.50 a gallon, that's because you could actually buy something with a dollar, like a full meal. |
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No retard.
It's becouse those countries are poor as shit, or rather, their people are and becouse they're dictatorships.
So (people = slaves) && (people != workers);
| Quote: | | Don't you remember the days where you could get gas for $0.50 a gallon |
You mean the days where the notorious regular American short-sighted complacent peaked so high, they all thouht they're doing so great and forgot about WW II taking place right across the street and how heavily they're funding the allied countries, which couldn't possibly ever return the debt, so they can win the nazis and then Wall Street crashed (as any analyst worth his salt could tell, when the stock market is running high steep, it's the sunshine before the bomb dropped on Hiroshima) driving the dollar back down to its real worth? |
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| Quan Chi2 wrote: | | Whats that supposed to mean? |
What it says. Why do you think women are gaining equality in the workforce? Because they've been in the workforce a while, and familiarity breeds knowledge that they're not spineless idiots who can't do anything. How did they get in the workforce in the first place? They had to take lower salaries, since some people wouldn't hire them, while those with reasonable opinions about women realized that they could hire good women employees at lower salaries, or the best women employees at a salary an average man would take.
This was possible because women (on average) were more likely to be well-educated (being just as likely to be born into wealthy families as men). So when they took a lower salary, that was possible. But black people happen to be more likely to be born into a poor family and end up less educated. The sort of employers who weren't racists, who'd think they could hire a black person for less, weren't allowed to do so, because of minimum wage laws. So why would they bother?
And if the minimum wage is $7 but an employer can make only $6 extra gross per hour by hiring an employee, the employee ends up fired. If that sort of employee could bring $15 of extra revenue per hour, then competing businesses would bid up the rate anyway.
And how could a homeless person ever convince anybody to hire him, with a minimum wage law?
If the minimum wage is a good thing, how do you calculate the optimal minimum wage? It certainly wouldn't make sense for it to be $100/hr or more, so somewhere between 0 and 100, there must be a 'best' minimum wage that's best for whatever sort of goals you have. What is that number? |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:28 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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You could make a special contract per job done and avoid minimum wage.
Although I doubt someone would hire a homeless, regardless of the fee involved. |
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LearJett+
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| SamHughes wrote: | | [..]What it says. Why do you think women are gaining equality in the workforce? Because they've been in the workforce a while, and familiarity breeds knowledge that they're not spineless idiots who can't do anything. How did they get in the workforce in the first place? They had to take lower salaries, since some people wouldn't hire them, while those with reasonable opinions about women realized that they could hire good women employees at lower salaries, or the best women employees at a salary an average man would take. |
it's nothing like this any more. there are plenty of jobs where women make more money than men -- substantially more. also, you have to take into account the fact that men and women work different kinds of jobs. women are most commonly associated with secretary/desk work. men are usually associated with higher-paying labor jobs.
| Quote: | | This was possible because women (on average) were more likely to be well-educated (being just as likely to be born into wealthy families as men). So when they took a lower salary, that was possible. But black people happen to be more likely to be born into a poor family and end up less educated. The sort of employers who weren't racists, who'd think they could hire a black person for less, weren't allowed to do so, because of minimum wage laws. So why would they bother? |
it wasn't likely to be born into a wealthy family white/black or man/woman. you keep changing your verb tenses, so i have no idea what time period you are speaking of... but i will assume the past. in the past, (when racism and sexism were more rampant) education mattered very little for labor jobs and other industrial employment.
| Quote: | | And if the minimum wage is $7 but an employer can make only $6 extra gross per hour by hiring an employee, the employee ends up fired. If that sort of employee could bring $15 of extra revenue per hour, then competing businesses would bid up the rate anyway. |
then hire less/more people. that's simple business.
| Quote: | | And how could a homeless person ever convince anybody to hire him, with a minimum wage law? |
by taking a fucking shower and applying for a job.
| Quote: | | If the minimum wage is a good thing, how do you calculate the optimal minimum wage? It certainly wouldn't make sense for it to be $100/hr or more, so somewhere between 0 and 100, there must be a 'best' minimum wage that's best for whatever sort of goals you have. What is that number? |
you take into account the cost of living for an area. a national minimum wage is a good idea, but states or even cities need to make up their own based on the cost of living.
the minimum wage needs to then be raised according to inflation. |
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| Quote: | | higher-paying labor |
Since when do maenial laboring pays more than minimum wage or a step or two above at most? |
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| are you serious? the people that flip the signs from 'stop' to 'slow' at construction sites get paid 17$ an hour or more in pennsylvania. it's a common misconception that laborers get paid cheaply. |
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If raising the minimum wage helps, why not just raise it to $1,000,000 per hour? Surely that will help raise people out of poverty, right?
Snap out of it, idiots, minimum wage increases only hurt.
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| Too stupid and idiotic to even bother with. |
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