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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:37 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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I agree with the mac bashing keep it up. |
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SpecShip Complete twat
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:45 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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LoL.
Incase I haven't said it before I'll say it now.
Macs are, or were, only good as a desktop work station for running graphical tools for graphical development.
They were basically manufactured for that reason and on the permise of being able to produce a GUI (notice the important part here is the G), with the backstab Gates pulled on Apple and the coming of Windows to the PC the Mac basically been on the sloop ever since and its only remaining virtue was a powerful graphical workstation.
With the 3Dfx cards getting bigger and better and stronger...even that isn't much really true.
And even the Apple is starting to use Intel I believe? Because they need that much more computation power to keep itself going as any sort of competition.
So...yeah.
The Mac is about as much of a fad as a console vs PC.
The only reasons console keep going is because they've had better and earlier penetration and are considered more "family" oriented than a mini-tower.
As well as games for consoles are being published on entire different paradigms and developer pay offs, while the PC game publishing is still following the same archaic principle of book publishing (you might notice books aren't doing as well anymore either) which making both parties close down like mad, mostly devs. _________________ Replacing yazour untill the whore returns.
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:47 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Try lowering your resolution. Using the nvidia driver with a 6600, the amount of crash on startups/arenachanges get progressively lower as I lower my resolution. Actually, I don't think we are talking about the same problem though. I get a blank window before crashing out. (Do you have the virtual desktop enabled in wine?)
oliver wrote: | Is there a general problem with Continuum + Wine + NVidia drivers? I seem to have the same problem as several others already reported: When running "wine Continuum.exe", it just exits after a few seconds, without showing any window or output...
When using the X.org nv driver, it works, and I can actually play Continuum, only it's quite slow (probably because the X.org driver has only little hardware accelaration)... So I wonder if there's a way to get it working with the NVidia driver? Any suggestions?
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:59 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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SpecShip wrote: | LoL.
Incase I haven't said it before I'll say it now.
Macs are, or were, only good as a desktop work station for running graphical tools for graphical development.
They were basically manufactured for that reason and on the permise of being able to produce a GUI (notice the important part here is the G), with the backstab Gates pulled on Apple and the coming of Windows to the PC the Mac basically been on the sloop ever since and its only remaining virtue was a powerful graphical workstation.
With the 3Dfx cards getting bigger and better and stronger...even that isn't much really true.
And even the Apple is starting to use Intel I believe? Because they need that much more computation power to keep itself going as any sort of competition.
So...yeah.
The Mac is about as much of a fad as a console vs PC.
The only reasons console keep going is because they've had better and earlier penetration and are considered more "family" oriented than a mini-tower.
As well as games for consoles are being published on entire different paradigms and developer pay offs, while the PC game publishing is still following the same archaic principle of book publishing (you might notice books aren't doing as well anymore either) which making both parties close down like mad, mostly devs. |
I'm just passing by, but this is really stupid.
Obviously you have little idea of what you're talking about.
I'm not a fan of the macs myself, I think they're way overpriced, but what you're selling here is not true.
Microsoft windows is a plague of the PC. As soon as it is eliminated the PC can unleash it's full potential. Mac OSX is based on unix and therefore has better memory handling (As does Linux ... try running a huge java app on the same PC under windows and under linux - big differance). It is not true that a better gfx card will boost the performance of a grafics app.
Besides, as I understand it, nvidia launched a high-end graphics card for mac. You can put up to 4 interconected cards in one mac. The problem is m$ still has monopoly on the gaming industry. When Mac and Linux and any alternative OS will present a big enough market to game publishers, you will see games for those platforms.
It's time to open your eyes, the industry is playing you. It's making you buy new computers just to play "breathtaking new games" just becose they lack optimisation.
As for the consoles, they're alive becose they're all an average user needs. Games, music, movies, and nowdays the internet. They're cheaper and guarantee you that new games will work for a longer period of time. |
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:53 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Nevermind, got it working. |
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:14 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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SpecShip wrote: | LoL.
Incase I haven't said it before I'll say it now.
Macs are, or were, only good as a desktop work station for running graphical tools for graphical development.
They were basically manufactured for that reason and on the permise of being able to produce a GUI (notice the important part here is the G), with the backstab Gates pulled on Apple and the coming of Windows to the PC the Mac basically been on the sloop ever since and its only remaining virtue was a powerful graphical workstation.
With the 3Dfx cards getting bigger and better and stronger...even that isn't much really true.
And even the Apple is starting to use Intel I believe? Because they need that much more computation power to keep itself going as any sort of competition.
So...yeah.
The Mac is about as much of a fad as a console vs PC.
The only reasons console keep going is because they've had better and earlier penetration and are considered more "family" oriented than a mini-tower.
As well as games for consoles are being published on entire different paradigms and developer pay offs, while the PC game publishing is still following the same archaic principle of book publishing (you might notice books aren't doing as well anymore either) which making both parties close down like mad, mostly devs. |
lol
Vista is going to be Microsoft's last operating system, wait and see. |
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:02 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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this comment is love overdue but it doesnt really matter because the idea will never die
PHONGY YOU ARE A BIG BIG NERD!
good day gentlemen |
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:03 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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edit *long overdue*
sorry my fat stubby fingers dont allow me to type properly |
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:46 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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As far as FPS goes, I tested this on a nvidia 6600gt and a ati 9800pro (128) and found to have better end results with the ati card (after much playing around). On a 9800pro which is a really cheap card (70$ ebay), I was able to get about 30fps @1600 and 50fps @ 1024. Id like to try it with an x800 or newer ati card. |
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:43 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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i dont think gfx cards have seen any vast improvements in their 2d speed since 9800 pro |
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:39 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Phong, what driver are you using for the ATI card? I find for 2d graphics such as ZSNES and Continuum that the r300 mesa driver works well, but for 3d graphics (obviously) you have to go with the fglrx driver. However, i haven't tried those progs. with this month's fglrx driver (XV bugged). _________________ Oldbie Server Help |
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Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:20 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Still using fg drivers. |
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:15 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Remove all installations/copies of wine. Install/make wine from source using the instructions located on the winehq website. Unzip continuum into your wine c_drive/whatever. run wine /path/to/continuum.exe
Use the wiki. |
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:16 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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oh, dont forget to patch wine before you start the make process. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:38 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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what's config.log say? |
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:49 am Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Did you try following my instructions?
Follow my instuctions on the wiki under examples. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:56 pm Post maybe stupid Post subject: |
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Run the following: sudo apt-get install build-essential bison flex fontforge libgl1-mesa-dev libgtk1.2 xorg-dev
I changed the example commands around a bit so it is more user-friendly and has some Ubuntu stuff in front. Just tested this on a default Ubuntu installation. |
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